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RT 1st October 2009 21:54

9. September 1943 above Salerno
 
Always the I+II KG76 18 planes against Salerno, crew of Fw Hecklau hs been quoted as missing, anymore data available ??

Remi

Brian Bines 2nd October 2009 15:02

Re: 9. September 1943 above Salerno
 
Remi looking at Qm's returns dated 2-10-43 there is the loss of F1+CK on 9-Sept. three crew shown as missing but changed to injured while the pilot is shown as returned unwounded any chance this might be Fw. Hecklau.

RT 2nd October 2009 17:08

Re: 9. September 1943 above Salerno
 
Mag es sein as they should say, my data came from the KTB KG76, seems written some time after the events , so I wonder why they don't hv the notice earlier....

I hv also losses for jan. nd febr. 1944, hv you any NVM for that time ??
Maybe Chris ??

Remi

Brian Bines 2nd October 2009 20:44

Re: 9. September 1943 above Salerno
 
Sorry Remi I do not have any KG76 NVM's apart from a couple for I/KG76 for the first Steinbock attacks. The admenments for the return of these crewmen from the 9th Sept. mission were on QM's reports dated 19th and 27th Oct. does the KTB has any mention of this,

Regards

Brian

RT 2nd October 2009 21:18

Re: 9. September 1943 above Salerno
 
Quite strangely the KTB that shows all the groups, apart the IV., who is giving for the whole KG76, general figures , is just focused for description of ops on the Med. theater, In fact it seems that this KTB has been written or after or in the last days of the war..
i hv maybe for you some NVM of the KG77,

Remi

With Richter we hv to wait that someone write the story of the KG76..

crolick 3rd October 2009 11:31

Re: 9. September 1943 above Salerno
 
If I may interfere - do you know what were the targets of KG76 in Salerno between 8th and 11th of September?!

Have a nice day,
Andrzej

Brian Bines 3rd October 2009 12:24

Re: 9. September 1943 above Salerno
 
Cant help much I am afraid the Luft Qm's returns for KG 76 losses has 6th Sept Bizerta in brackets after the aircraft loss, Neapol on the 10th Sept. and Gulf of Salerno on the 13th Sept. On the 8th Sept a missing crew of II/KG30 has Neapol in brackets shown as target,

Regards

Brian Bines

RT 3rd October 2009 13:08

Re: 9. September 1943 above Salerno
 
8 Sept. 8 planes against Napoli/Neapel 21h20/21h40 Ships

9.Sept. 18 planes against Salerno 05h08/05h30 Ships

9.Sept. against Salerno 21h37/22h05 Ships

10. Sept. against Salerno 22h34/22h58 Ships

11. Sept. against Salerno 04h58/05h10 Ships

So not against trupps ,

Remi

crolick 10th October 2009 13:07

Re: 9. September 1943 above Salerno
 
Thank you Brian and Remi,

in my notes about Polish destroyer PIORUN I have:
PIORUN with HMS PETARD as a part of covering force downed one enemy torpedo bomber attacking battleships of Force H.
I'm not sure whether this happened on 8 or 9 IX 1943 so any details on the attacks on Allied battleships on those days would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you once again for your help :)

Andrzej

PS.
On 8 IX 1943 Force H consisted of:
4 BB NELSON & RODNEY and VALIANT & WARSPITE
2 CV ILLUSTRIOUS and FORMIDABLE
19 DD including PIORUN and PETARD

On 9 IX 1943 Division 2 departed (2 BB, 1 CV, 8 DD) apart of FORMIDABLE


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