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yogybär 8th October 2009 23:19

Airfield Svoboda?
 
Stab,I., III./ZG 2 were there from 7-8'42
There are 2 places which would fit:
Is it ca. 20km north of Kursk or ca. 100km W of Kursk?

Thanks!

Larry deZeng 9th October 2009 01:44

Re: Airfield Svoboda?
 

1. Swoboda (e. Svoboda) - C Russia (35 km NNE Kursk); Ffp.
2. Swoboda (e. Svoboda) - S Russia (80 km SSE Voronezh); Lp.

On 2 July 1942, 9./ZG 2 was operating from Svoboda/SSE of Voronezh, according to the Gen.Qu. Verlustmeldungen. Therefore, it is Nr. 2, above, which was a Landeplatz.



Evgeny Velichko 9th October 2009 07:36

Re: Airfield Svoboda?
 
Hi gents!

Svoboda (in WW II times it had a name Liski), Voronezh region, could not be a base for I./ZG2 because it was Held by Soviet Army still in july 1942. I was searching this question before with russian researchers.

Me and Sergey Samodurov got a final desicion that a base of I./ZG2 was Svoboda in Kursk area.

yogybär 12th October 2009 21:57

Re: Airfield Svoboda?
 
Larry, Evgeny, thanks for your answers!

Even today, "Lisky" is called Lisky in Google Earth and seem like a rather big city. So it is astonishing that it is only a "Lp" which I guess means Landeplatz (landing ground).

The "Kursk Svoboda" has a railway station, so it is a very reasonable place for an airfield.

PS: Acc. to ww2.dk, the whole ZG1 was based there some time in summer '42.
PPS: I have indeed found another Svoboda at 47°11'01"N, 40°39'15"E which is ca. 40km east of Rostov na Donu. But it is in the middle of nowhere ;).

Larry deZeng 13th October 2009 01:59

Re: Airfield Svoboda?
 
Hi Jörg,

"Svoboda" is a popular name, although not as popular as "Ivanskoye" or Nikolskoye". I uploaded my CD-ROM Vector Globe World Atlas by Cartografx and keyed in "Svoboda" and found 29 inhabited places by that name with populations of 600 or more in Russia, one stream by that name in Russia, and two towns/villages named Svoboda in Ukraine. Vector Globe lists over 3,000,000 places so in Russia, especially, it gives so many "hits" for the popular names that the user (me) can get confused. It then becomes necessary to display the location of each one to try and decide the one of interest.

Luckily, I also have a wartime Luftwaffe Gazetteer of airfields in the Soviet Union and their classification as well as British Air Ministry A.I.2.(b) directories of USSR wartime airfields. All three of these resources used together makes the task of locating airfields much, much easier.

Larry

yogybär 13th October 2009 21:52

Re: Airfield Svoboda?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry deZeng (Post 93887)
a wartime Luftwaffe Gazetteer of airfields in the Soviet Union and their classification

Now that's what I call a really interesting source!
Thanks for having shared the Svoboda. :)


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