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Kurtl12 25th November 2009 23:49

Guerilla/Partisan supply flights over Austria/Hungaria 1944
 
Gentlemen,

I've read some stories about partisan supply flights from the east to Hungarian and Austrian territory during summer 1944. In certain cases the sovjets used a single B-25 bomber. Wilhelm Johnen wrote something about it in his book and some old people from Austria told me that they had contact to sovjet spies that came out a plane per chutes at night from the east. I would like to know what are the facts about this all. Is there something on the internet available? I'm glad about any information. Thanks alot! - Kurtl

stefaan 26th November 2009 08:44

Re: Guerilla/Partisan supply flights over Austria/Hungaria 1944
 
Hi.
205 BG did numerous supply drops to partisans in Hungery and other Balkan states.
Those sorties should be in their ORBS in Kew.
Also found in 'The men who went to Warsaw' by L.Isemonger.
Hope it helps
Stefaan Bouwer

Larry deZeng 26th November 2009 14:18

Re: Guerilla/Partisan supply flights over Austria/Hungaria 1944
 
Stefaan, Kurtl is talking about Soviet VVS agent-dropping and supply missions and not the USAAF/RAF ones which are well known.

Kurtl: there are files on these in the OKW Amt Abwehr records at BA-MA Freiburg. As well as Hungary and Austria, the VVS also flew numerous such missions over and to the Partisan-occupied areas of Yugoslavia using Il-4s, Tu-2s and Li-2s (Russian version of the C-47). The flights over Yugoslavia and Austria were mostly to drop agents. The flights were at night (of course) and the Luftwaffe attempted to use night fighters against them but without much success. These missions were no where as numerous as those flown by the Amis and Brits, but they were certainly more than just a few.

L.

Csaba B. Stenge 26th November 2009 16:17

Re: Guerilla/Partisan supply flights over Austria/Hungaria 1944
 
Kurtl,

Johnen flew such missions from Újvidék (Neusatz) airfield in Southern Hungary. These Soviet B-25s flew supply drops in Yugoslavia (Johnen claimed 4 Michells in such missions during August, 1944). On the same time he also engaged 205 BG's planes.

Schenck 26th November 2009 22:23

Re: Guerilla/Partisan supply flights over Austria/Hungaria 1944
 
I thought he referred to Novi Sad in Vojvodina, the province of Serbia. The episode with loss of 3 Bf 110s during move to Sombor airfield is described in detail.
With regard to Soviet B-25s, one of the scale model magazines published last year had an article which touched on supply drops to Yugoslavia.

Kurtl12 27th November 2009 21:42

Re: Guerilla/Partisan supply flights over Austria/Hungaria 1944
 
Gentlemen, thanks for your posts.
'The men who went to Warsaw' by L.Isemonger probably has not much to do with my request but is one of the book I'm looking for such a long time. I had a couple of sources told but never really was ably to buy one. If someone has an issue to sell, please let me know.

I've heard about the so called operation "MASHA" during late 1944 or begin 1945. A couple of sovjet agent were dropped over the eastern alps in the area south of St. Pölten (SW of Vienna). At least one female agent was among them and broke her ankle. She was hidden by local farmer in their house and survived the war. I don't really understand the mission of those agents in such lonely areas.

Since Freiburg is far away from me I want to ask if there is some online source of this BA? Eventually someone wrote a book about these missions?

@Schenck: Do you remember which one of the scale model magazines it was?

Thanks for your help. Regards

Larry deZeng 28th November 2009 00:35

Re: Guerilla/Partisan supply flights over Austria/Hungaria 1944
 
BA-MA Freiburg has a web site:


http://www.bundesarchiv.de/bestaende..._frameset.html


The Amt Ausland/Abwehr collection is in Signatur RW 5.


L.


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