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thierry paradis 1st December 2009 17:11

Info request for Oberleutnant Hans-Karl Keitel IV./JG 51
 
Hello,

I'm looking for infos and pictures from Oberleutnant Hans-Karl Keitel.

Could this picture be him? Or did some know this pilot?

Two bad pictures....but it is all i have.



http://i93.servimg.com/u/f93/12/03/29/83/54-0210.jpg

http://i93.servimg.com/u/f93/12/03/29/83/54-tq012.jpg

Doug Stankey 1st December 2009 19:01

Re: Info request for Oberleutnant Hans-Karl Keitel IV./JG 51
 
Here is what we have on this guy:

KEITEL, Hans-Karl.
01.09.40 Oblt., appt Staka 1./JG 77 (to 19.02.41).
31.08.40 (or 21.11.40?) Oblt., appt Staka 10./JG 51 (to 19.02.41).
20.02.41 appt (acting?) Kdr. IV./JG 51.
26.02.41 WIA – in dogfight with Spitfire SE of Dungeness.

We hope that this helps.

HLdZ
DGS

thierry paradis 1st December 2009 21:22

Re: Info request for Oberleutnant Hans-Karl Keitel IV./JG 51
 
Many thanks for the informations.

Is it him on the pictures?

On the pictures he is at Jafü 2 at Le Touquet.

Thanks for your help.

Regards

Thierry

Leo Etgen 2nd December 2009 14:50

Info request for Oberleutnant Hans-Karl Keitel IV./JG 51
 
Hello Thierry

I can only add his victories and loss list information to what Doug has provided:

1. 26 May 1940 Stab I./JG 77 Spitfire 12:20 Dünkirchen
?. 4 September 1940 1./JG 77 14:35 Spitfire
?. 15 September 1940 1./JG 77 15:40 Spitfire
6. 30 October 1940 1./JG 77 17:57 Spitfire
7. 10 February 1941 10./JG 51 - Hurricane NW Dünkirchen
8. 26 February 1941 10./JG 51 11:29 Hurricane S Dover

11 September 1939: Leutnant Hans-Karl Keitel of Stab I./JG 77 shot down by Flak, belly-landing 20 kilometers east-northeast of Krakau, 80%

26 February 1941: Oberleutnant Hans-Karl Keitel, Gruppenkommandeur of IV./JG 51, missing in Bf 109 E-4/B "Black <2" (W.Nr. 3753) following aerial combat with Spitfire fighters southeast of Dungenes, 100%

I hope this helps you somewhat. Unfortunately I have no idea if that is him in the photographs but if it is then many thanks for posting them.

Horrido!

Leo

kaki3152 2nd December 2009 14:54

Re: Info request for Oberleutnant Hans-Karl Keitel IV./JG 51
 
According to the Kracker Web site and the JG-51 book (Jadgeschwader 51:Held) he was MIA on February 26,1941 in combat with Hurricanes

thierry paradis 2nd December 2009 20:18

Re: Info request for Oberleutnant Hans-Karl Keitel IV./JG 51
 
Many thanks to all for your help.

On the full picture he is at the villa "La Prairie" who lives at that time Osterkamp (Jafü2 Kmdr.). He is alone in his officer's uniform with his dagger... looks more an official meeting. Maybe as the new Komdr of IV./51??

The services of Jafü2 are split in the villa "Paddock" closeby and Hotel du Golf on the same street.

Bye.

Thierry


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