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bill norman 11th December 2009 14:39

Me.109 defector(?), Pt 2.
 
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Can anyone shed any light on the attached thumbnail?

Chris Goss 11th December 2009 14:54

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Looks like 5 Sep 40, Stab/JG 53, Bf 109 E-1, Wk Nr 5375. Crash-landed Monkton Kent after combat Hptm Wilhelm Meyerweissflog POW. Nowhere near Doncaster I am afraid!

Peter Cornwell 11th December 2009 15:17

Re: Me.109 defector(?), Pt 2.
 
I can confirm what Chris says. Unquestionably, September 5, 1940, as follows:

Stab JG53 Messerschmitt Bf109E-1 (5375). Oil tank damaged in combat during free-lance sortie over the Channel and belly-landed at Monkton Farm, near Manston, 3.45 p.m. Probably that attacked by F/L P.C. Hughes of No.234 Squadron. FF Hptmn Wilhelm Meyerweissflog captured unhurt. Aircraft Black < ׀- + — 100% write-off.

RolandF 11th December 2009 17:15

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Would this be one of the swastika-less JG 53 Bf109s? The red ring around the nose is clearly visible. And what abou the defection? If the Cramon-Taubadel story has enough substance there might have been a certain mood within the squadron to support thoughts about defecting...

Regards

Roland

Chris Goss 11th December 2009 17:36

Re: Me.109 defector(?), Pt 2.
 
It was no defection-he was shot down. What Bill was referring to was that the owner of the photo said it was taken near Doncaster and if that were true, Bill was speculating it was a defection. Doncaster is some way from Manston, Manston being well within the combat range of a Bf 109 E which Doncaster is definitely not!

Peter Cornwell 11th December 2009 21:01

Re: Me.109 defector(?), Pt 2.
 
Roland,

No to both suggestions. As you can see, Hakenkreuz was carried.

bill norman 11th December 2009 21:34

Re: Me.109 defector(?), Pt 2.
 
Thank you, Chris and Peter - tidied that one up nicely! RolandF - another myth in the making?

RT 11th December 2009 23:06

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E-1 ?? , the wings MG look rather big oder..

Remi

Peter Cornwell 12th December 2009 10:22

Re: Me.109 defector(?), Pt 2.
 
Quite so, Remi, the Werk Nummer reveals it to be an E-4 built by WNF although Lw records report it as an E-1. I would be more interested in confirming the exact function of MEYERWEISSFLOG within the Geschwader Stabsschwarm. Anyone ?

RT 12th December 2009 11:20

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Seems that what Norman said, could be right, on AIR40/2963, he is quoted to be borned on 27.oct.1889 nd as a non-flying staff
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Remi


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