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Brian 15th December 2009 22:09

3 P-51s lost 19 September 1944
 
Hi guys

On 19 September 1944, White Flight of 364thFS/357thFG was lost on a sortie in the Emmerich area at about 1610. The leader Capt Bryce McIntyre was apparently shot down by a Spitfire, baled out and was captured. His two wingmen Lts Jacobs and Moeblus were also lost, but I have no details. Were they also victims of Spitfires?

If so, which Spitfire unit was responsible?

Cheers
Brian

John Manrho 15th December 2009 23:08

Re: 3 P-51s lost 19 September 1944
 
All shot down by Fw 190's.

John

Brian 16th December 2009 11:33

Re: 3 P-51s lost 19 September 1944
 
Hi John

Thanks for that. I wonder why it has been suggested that McIntyre fell to a Spitfire - after all, he survived as a POW. Does anyone know what his returning POW questionaire states?

Were the other two killed?

Cheers
Brian

Leendert 16th December 2009 12:50

Re: 3 P-51s lost 19 September 1944
 
Brian,

It may be interesing to read this as well: http://www.cebudanderson.com/arnhemaffair.htm

The story says that they were shot down by German fighters, but repeated passes by nearby Spitfires had separated their flight from the others...

Regards,

Leendert

Brian 16th December 2009 15:23

Re: 3 P-51s lost 19 September 1944
 
Thanks once again Leendert

Cheers
Brian

shooshoobaby 16th December 2009 19:27

Re: 3 P-51s lost 19 September 1944
 
Brian -
Lt. Moebius Evaded and Returned to Base after 5 Months
with Dutch Underground.
Lt. Jacobs was injured/wounded . Bailed out - POW
Mike

ssg keay 22nd December 2009 12:18

Re: 3 P-51s lost 19 September 1944
 
Boy, it would be interesting to find out where these three Mustangs went down. I used to detect near there, in Kleve. Danny

Leendert 22nd December 2009 13:31

Re: 3 P-51s lost 19 September 1944
 
Danny,

Answer for two on the nimh.nl website with 1944 losses: in the Dutch-German border area.

Lt Moebius in 44-13801 at/near Angeren (Kamervoort) and Lt Jacobs in 43-6813 between Elten (Germany) and 's Heerenberg (Netherlands).

Regards,

Leendert

ssg keay 22nd December 2009 14:40

Re: 3 P-51s lost 19 September 1944
 
Wow, Leendert....between Elten and 's Heerenberg is a good area to search, with lots of woods and raised terrain :) Might have to give that a try sometime. By the way Leendert, which group in BE do you work with? Danny


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