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edwest 8th July 2005 18:41

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
Here is a report about a Luftwaffe pilot who was a POW in Russia.


http://www.wmwa.org/wbnews/BobChubb-notice.html



And more info about his book:

http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore...x?bookid=25659


Usual disclaimer,
Ed

John Manrho 8th July 2005 18:54

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
I have never heard of a Gottfried Dulias as a fighter pilot, never heard that somebody wuth that name scored 5 victories and there is i.m.h.o no record showing a loss of a Bf 109 with a pilot of that name. Does anybody has hard evidence or is this a big fake?

edwest 8th July 2005 19:03

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
I understand your skepticism. Here's a few more words about this person.


http://www.luftwaffereenactors.org/Dulias.htm



Ed


Of course, it would be a service to determine if this man is really a former Luftwaffe pilot.

John Manrho 8th July 2005 19:12

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
O my god, do I see a hoax here...????? I would be happy to be corrected but everything points in one way. JG 53 was never stationed near Aachen in late 1944....no record of any victories by a Lt. Dulias.

Jaap Woortman 8th July 2005 19:31

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
End of August/beginning of September 1944 II./JG 53 was stationed at Eindhoven. If you call the Aachen area North-West Germany Aachen is a suburb from Eindhoven or the other way around.

Jaap

Dénes Bernád 8th July 2005 20:57

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
There are many credibly sounding details of his pilot's career... except for the I-16s he shot down over Hungary.

Anyway, I am looking forward to hearing more details about this guy, before deciding to buy his book, or not.

edwest 8th July 2005 21:07

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
Apparently he is, or was, a member of this group.


http://members.tripod.com/SOARR/eagle.HTM


And associated with a few other German pilots.



Ed

John Manrho 8th July 2005 22:49

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
I wouldn't call that "associated" with other German pilots. May be they gathered on invitation of the organization and did not know each other. The way he likes to wear his uniform makes me wonder....... There is no Dulias in Prien's JG 53, no Dulias in loss records as far as I know and no Dulias in the microfilms of claims..... Add several things together..... Until somebody can show hard evidence, I am not believing it.

edwest 9th July 2005 01:39

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Manrho
I wouldn't call that "associated" with other German pilots. May be they gathered on invitation of the organization and did not know each other. The way he likes to wear his uniform makes me wonder....... There is no Dulias in Prien's JG 53, no Dulias in loss records as far as I know and no Dulias in the microfilms of claims..... Add several things together..... Until somebody can show hard evidence, I am not believing it.



"associated" Very well.


Ed

Artist 9th July 2005 01:49

Re: Luftwaffe POWs in Russia
 
I met Gottfried at a church in NJ, He was giving a lecture about his time as a POW in Russia. The book was not yet finished. He seemed very genuine, even breaking down at times. I did not read the book but I think he wants to tell more about mans inhumanity to man than about being a fighter pilot. He had a good deal of photos of himself from flight school to front line service. Maybe sixty odd years latter but you could still tell it was him. If I remember correctly he told me that one of his victories was not confirmed. I may still have his address if I can find it I will write to him. Any questions you would like me to ask him? Please be nice ! just because we great historianshttp://forum.12oclockhigh.net/images/icons/icon6.gif have not heard of him does not make his story a hoax.


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