8/KG 4 Crash-landings at Schiphol
 

Can anyone with access to Ab Jansen's book confirm any crash-landings of Ju 88s of 8/KG 4 (later 8/KG 30) at Schiphol prior to 26 Jan 41?

Re: 8/KG 4 Crash-landings at Schiphol
 

Chris,

At 40-08-26 Ju 88A-1 WNr. 3149 of 8./KG 4 flown by Oblt. R.Meissner collided with the Ju 88 of Oblt. Wimmer also from 8./KG 4 at the runway. Meissner and his crew were killed. See page 246 of Fliegerhorst Schiphol, part I by Ab A. Jansen.
Further crash landings at Schiphol-Amsterdam of 8./KG 4 or 8./KG 30 before January 26, 1941 I have not seen.
I will check a crashlanding of Storp in June, 1940 at Schiphol.

Jaap

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Thanks Jaap. I have a photo of a Ju 88 of 8/KG 4 (or 8/KG 30) at an airfield taken by a 9/KG 30 crewman before he was taken POW in Jan 41 (he had been taken POW first time on 10 May 40). I have 2 photos of this unmarked crash-landed Ju 88 taken in June 40 which looks to be Storp's. Any mentions in the book of Bf 110s crash-landing at Schiphol prior to Jan 41?

Re: 8/KG 4 Crash-landings at Schiphol
 

Chris,

I have checked our Losslist, and as far I have seen now there have been no crashes at Schiphol with more then 60% Bruch of Bf 110s before Jan. 1941. Will check Ab's book later.

Jaap

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Hello Chris and Jaap,

I have Hptm Walter Storp of 8./KG 4 (z.Zt. stellv. Kdr.) at Schiphol on 3 June 1940 - wia due to Bruchlandung. Aircraft damaged by ballon. Alas no more details relating to the plane involved.

Best regards,
Rob

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Thanks Rob. I have this from my previous posting but this crash-landing is not the one that I am after

Re: 8/KG 4 Crash-landings at Schiphol
 

Chris,

I think I have found it.
Fliegerhorst Schiphol, part 1, page 181.
Ab gives as source: BA/MA RL 21/222 KTB 1 Fl.H.Kdtr. L 9/I Schiphol-Amsterdam (01.07.40 - 11.09.40).
"At August 13th, 1940 4 Me 110's of III./ZG 23 have made an emergency landing at the airfield Java near dry-dock in Amsterdam North. One plane went nose-over. The maschine is defect. Crew hurt. Three of the a/c are at Schiphol airport. The plane has been salvaged by the Fl.H.Kdtr."
Two remarks from my side. ZG 23 must be a typo. Should be ZG 26, I think.
At the same page in his book Ab talks about the recce unit 4.(H.) 23.
Second remark, the Java airfield is the former Dutch M.L. emergency airfield Buiksloot.
Problem solved?

Jaap

Re: 8/KG 4 Crash-landings at Schiphol
 

Luft QM's report of 29-1-41 has - 25-1-41 III/KG30 Sandfort ( Zandvoort ? west of Schipol) enemyfire Ju88A-5 4233 65% no crew hurt. Dont know if it was attacked by Sandfort and got into Schipol

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Brian

This Ju 88 is as good as 100% dest

Re: 8/KG 4 Crash-landings at Schiphol
 

Hello the "flying dutchmen" is voort the same ford/furt ???

Rémi