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5.7.1943 Bf 109G-4 W.Nr. 19307 schwarz 2 + | BH+XK 8./J.G. 3, Lüdtke Heinz, Uffz. POW after Notlandung due to engine damage. Pl.Qu. 6163 (N Shebekino) 100% F

Khazanov/Gorbatsch (p. 191) mention Lüdtke as being taken prisoner at St. Sumskaja (NW Belgorod) and shot while trying to escape. This would be exactly the area in which Lüdtke claimed one Il-2 at 0745 hrs that day - Pl.Q. 6117 (near Rakitnoe, NW Belgorod) - his only claim before his death.
But the loss report gives the place of Notlandung as Shebekino area which is SE Belgorod - also Khazanov/Gorbatsch (p. 117) say Lüdtke was s/d and taken prisoner in area Krutoj Log-Schebekino - so it is something wrong here.

Now, judging from German claims III./J.G. 3 flew most of their missions NW Belgorod, but there were indeed some claims near Shebekino in late afternoon.

Anyone has any evidence at what time of day Lüdtke was actually shot down?

Kind regards,
Pawel Burchard

Re: Heinz Lüdtke

Hi,

in Prien`s "MesserschmittBf109 in Einsatz bei der III/JG3" you will read:
"8/JG3 Heinz Luedtke KG Motorschaden,Notlandung jenseits, PLQ.61/6/3 6 km nordwestlich Schtschebekino Bf109 G-4 19307 sw.2+I 100%"
The last kill of Luedtke is listed on 02.07.43 ( the 7th) at 09.40.

Regards

Robert

Re: Heinz Lüdtke

Quote:

Originally Posted by robert

The last kill of Luedtke is listed on 02.07.43 ( the 7th) at 09.40.

I've had claim film on loan from Tony Wood some time ago - please take a look on entries from page 9 for 5.7.1943 - last position: http://strony.aster.pl/mizs/050743-09.jpg

Kind regards,
Pawel Burchard

Re: Heinz Lüdtke

In Prien`s book:

05.07.43 at 07.45 8/JG3 Fw.Herbert Zimmer one ? (type unknown).

Regards

Robert