New picture of a Me262 with Karoband
 

Hi all,

I just found a new (to me) photo of a captured karoband-Me262.

Follow this link:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_l6gtRWCxIl...0-h/Me-262.jpg

Enjoy it, Karl

Re: New picture of a Me262 with Karoband
 

you think the band is red and black kgj 6

Walt

Re: New picture of a Me262 with Karoband
 

Hello,
For me too Karl, thanks very much.
Regards, Franck.

Re: New picture of a Me262 with Karoband
 

yes, I assume one of the KG(J)6 planes that left Saatz / Zatec on 8th of May 1945 to prevent Russian captivity for the pilot, like "Karoband" or chequerboard-band plane "yellow 5", which landed at Munich-Riem.

Karl

Re: New picture of a Me262 with Karoband
 

Re: New picture of a Me262 with Karoband
 

What did the small 'a' in this case represent?

Re: New picture of a Me262 with Karoband
 

You too??? :D.

Franck.

Re: New picture of a Me262 with Karoband
 

Hi...

In answer to your question, if you check this website www.stormbirds.com and select the 'Me262 project' tab, and click through to page 3: Aircraft profiles - configuration data, it states that all operational wartime Me262s were suffix 'a' models, with Jumo 004 engines, and all experimental models were 'b'-suffixed, indicating BMW003 engines and therefore, the modern replicas but in the USA are following on with 'c'-suffixed machines, denoting the use of the modern J-85 jet engines used in the replicas.

An interesting site, although in my ignorance, I have no idea if the 'suffix-to-engine type' designation is accurate. I dare say someone more acquainted with the originals machine would be able to inform us.

Regards...

Paul

Re: New picture of a Me262 with Karoband
 

Gents,

This Me 261 A-1a Jabo is "gelbe 3" of 3./KG(J) 54 and was found at a small airfield across the river from the town of Moosberg (NE of Munich on the Isar River). Other extant photos reveal that the lighter portions of the karoband were originally white. They were lightly but deliberately oversprayed with 81 Braunviolet to mute to contrast with the dark blue cheques and not compromise the aircraft's overall camouflage that was also oversprayed with denser wellen of 81. There is also evidence of the KG 54 "Totenkopfwappen" ahead of the windscreen. It too was overpainted with 81 but in this instance with a brush.

The overpainting of unit markings may well reflect the time when the remnants of Me 262 units operating in the Protectorate (KG(J) 6, KG(J) 54 and JG 7) were combined and folded into the ad hoc unit Gefechtsverband Hogeback in late April 1945.

BTW, the location is verified by correspondence received from a US veteran who took photos of the aircraft after release from Stalag VII A.

Cheers,

David

Re: New picture of a Me262 with Karoband
 

Ahhhh, David, what source is telling you that the 81 was used to tone down the markings; other photos aside? I mean, I still retain the much vaunted Experten Decals ED-2A "Checkmate" that has since been proven otherwise.

Comments please?

Stephen