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CJE 14th May 2010 09:35

Martin Fiebig
 
During the Stalingrad airlift operations, Fiebig was appointed "Air Supply Chief".
What is the exact translation in German, I have not been able to find it on the net?
Thanks.
Chris

Nick Beale 14th May 2010 10:23

Re: Martin Fiebig
 
Chef des Nachshubwesens, I think.

Pawel Burchard 14th May 2010 10:43

Re: Martin Fiebig
 
Wasn't it Lufttransportführer?

CJE 14th May 2010 11:37

Re: Martin Fiebig
 
Fritz Morzik was Lufttransportchef, wasn't he?

Doug Stankey 14th May 2010 18:42

Re: Martin Fiebig
 
A check of our officer personnel files confirms my recollection that it was Kühl who was in charge of transport operations during Stalingrad. For these guys we have the following career data:


FIEBIG, Martin.
(DOB: 07.05.91 in Rösnitz/Oberschlesien).
01.05.34 entry into the Luftwaffe with a rank of Maj. and appt Kdt. Fl.H. Greifswald.
1936 promo to Obstlt.
01.03.37 Obstlt., appt Kdt. Fl.H. Fassberg.
01.10.37 Obstlt., appt Kdr. Kampffliegerschule Fassberg (to 30.06.38).
01.06.38 promo to Oberst 01.07.38 appt Kommodore KG 253.

01.05.39 appt Kommodore KG 4 (to 10.05.40).
08.05.40 awarded Ritterkreuz.
10.05.40 shot down in He 111P over Holland by Dutch Fokker G-1 fighters during a pre-dawn mission to Amsterdam, belly landed at St. Annapolder and taken prisoner.
16.05.40 appt Offizier z.b.V. im RLM (pending assignment) – with temporary duty as Kdr. of a Kampfgruppe with Pz.Gr. Guderian.
01.08.40 appt Chef für Flugsicherheit/RLM.
01.04.41 promo to Gen.Maj.
02.04.41 appt Nahkampfführer/IV. Fl.Korps while retaining his former position.
01.06.41 appt Nahkampfführer/II. Fl.Korps.
25.07.41 injured in Fi 156 crash.
15.11.41 appt Nahkampfführer 2/VIII. Fl.Korps.
01.04.42 promo to Gen.Lt.
12.04.42 appt Kdr. 1.Flieger-Div.
11.05.42 awarded DKG.
01.07.42 appt Kommandierender Gen. VIII. Fl.Korps.
23.12.42 awarded Eichenlaub (other sources state that he was nominated for the Eichenlaub but did not receive it before the war ended).
01.03.43 promo to Gen.d.Fl.
22.05.43 appt Kommandierender Gen. X. Fl.Korps.
22.05.43 concurrently appt Befehlshaber Lw.-Kdo. Südost.
01.09.44 assigned to Führerreserve OKL.
01.02.45 appt Kommandierender Gen. II. Fl.Korps.
12.04.45 appt Komm.Gen.u. Befehlshaber Lw.-Kdo. Nordost.
08.05.45 into British captivity.
06.02.46 into Yugoslavian captivity.
10.09.47 sentenced to death for alleged war crimes.
†24.10.47 executed in Belgrade.

KÜHL, Dr. Ernst. (DOB: 18.03.88 in Breslau).
World War I veteran.
1936 entered the Luftwaffe.
09.39 Hptm.(d.R.) in KG 55.
1940 in Stab/KG 55 (30.09.40).
30.09.40 WIA - shot down by 609 Sqdn. ditched in the Channel and rescued by Seenotdienst aircraft.
31.03.41 Maj., appt Kdr. II./KG 55 (to 26.08.42).
20.12.41 Maj., awarded Ehrenpokal.
04.42 promo to Obstlt.(d.R.).
27.08.42 awarded DKG, II./KG 55.
27.08.42 appt Kommodore KG 55 (to 07.08.43).
26.10.42 Oberst (d.R.), Kommodore KG 55, awarded the Ritterkreuz in recognition of the completion of 230 combat missions.
11.42 concurrently appt Transportfliegerführer 2 (a.k.a. (“Lufttransportführer Morosowskaja”) (to 02.43).
08.43 appt Fliegerführer Nord (West) (to 02.44).
18.12.43 Oberst (d.R.), awarded Eichenlaub for service as Kommodore KG 55.
01.02.44 Oberst, appt Kdr. 3. Fliegerdivision (to 01.06.44).
03.44 appt Fliegerführer Nordmeer (Norway) (to 04.44? Order probably rescinded).
06.44 appt Fliegerführer 4 (Norway) (a.k.a. “Fliegerführer Drontheim”) (to 01.45)?
01.45 appt Kdr. 5. Flieger-Div., Narvik (to 03.45).
03.45 proposed by OKL to take over 14. Flieger-Div. in NW Germany, but events prevented this from happening.
Credited with 315 combat missions during the war.
09.47 released from British internment.
†02.02.72 in Münster.

Thus the reason you could not find Fiebig's Stalingrad transport title on the net is because he didn't have one. Kühl's title was "Transportfliegerführer 2".



HLdZ
DGS

CJE 14th May 2010 19:26

Re: Martin Fiebig
 
Thanks, Doug. Excellent.

However, Fritz Morzik himself wrote that Fiebig was temporarily relieved of his command of VIII. FK to replace GenMaj V. Carganico as "Air Transport Chief (Stalingrad)" - the text is in English.
My main source for ranks and posts is the excellent Axis Biographical Research site. However, for some reason they give them in English.

Anyway, Pawel was right, the exact translation is "Lufttransportführer".

Merci to all who took a few minutes of their time to answer me.

Chris

Thor1968 16th May 2010 00:35

Re: Martin Fiebig
 
Why was he executed in Belgrade ?
Which war crimes could he have made ?

obdl3945 16th May 2010 13:40

Re: Martin Fiebig
 
Thor1968...

Via this link:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...25428&start=60
the following...

Fiebig, Martin (?-1947) [General der Flieger] -- commander, 4th Bomber Wing (Kampfgeschwader 4) "General Wever" 1 Sept 1939-10 May 1940; commander, 1st Air Division (1.Flieger-Division) 12 Apr-30 June 1942; commander, VIII Flying Corps 1942; commander, X Flying Corps (X.Fliegerkorps) 22 May 1943-1 Sept 1944; commander, Luftwaffe Forces Southeast (Befehlshaber Luftwaffen Kommando Suedost) 22 May 1943-1 Sept 1944; commander, IInd Flying Corps (II.Fliegerkorps) 1 Feb-12 Apr 1945 [Knights Cross 1940; Oakleaves 1942] {arrested and put on trial by a Yugoslav court on charges arising out of the bombing of Belgrade in Apr 1941; convicted of war crimes and sentenced to death by hanging; executed 5 May 1947 (Field of Honor 2, pps. 152-3) or 24 Oct 1947 (MacLean, Quiet Flows the Rhine p. 141; ABR-Croisier-L; Third Reich Factbook).}

Regards...

Paul

Thor1968 17th May 2010 00:32

Re: Martin Fiebig
 
Thanks Paul.

Regards
Thor1968


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