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Bf 110 1st June 2010 20:44

Losses of ZG2 in BoB
 
Hello,

I've got a handwritten list from my grandfather about losses of Zerstörergeschwader 2 in the Battle of Britain. Can't say, if everything is correct, because he wrote it down decades after the war. He was radio operator/gunner in a Bf110 of ZG2.
So here we go:

10.07.40_____3./ZG2___Uffz. Brannath and radio operator KIA (routine flight)

15.07.40____7.?/ZG2___Oblt. Tiefenbrunner KIA (flight to Wunsdorf)

11.08.40___Stab/ZG2___Oblt. Hensel KIA, oblt. Schäfer WIA (Cherbourg)
11.08.40_Stab I./ZG2___Major Ott and Fw. Ziemehl KIA (Portland)
11.08.40_____1./ZG2___Lt. Jess and Gefr. Kossar? KIA (Portland)
11.08.40_____2./ZG2___Fw. Teichert and Gefr. Kloss MIA (Portland)
11.08.40_____?./ZG2___Fw. Weiss and Uffz. Schwarze MIA (Portland)
11.08.40_____4./ZG2___Uffz. Hoyer and Gefr. Dietz MIA (Portland)
11.08.40______________3 more aircraft damaged

12.08.40_____1./ZG2___Oblt. Blume saved, 1 MIA (Channel)
12.08.40_____2./ZG2___Hpt. Kulbel and Uffz. Budig KIA
12.08.40_____5./ZG2___Uffz. Schuler and Ogfr. Evel MIA
12.08.40_____5./ZG2___Uffz Conrad and radio operator MIA
12.08.40______________2 more aircraft damaged

13.08.40_____1./ZG2___Uffz. Labusch KIA, Lt. Mönchmeyer POW
13.08.40______________4 more aircraft damaged

15.08.40_____?./ZG2___crew MIA over the Channel

16.08.40_____6./ZG2___Oblt. Hollekamp and Fw. Schurk KIA

24.08.40_____3./ZG2___Lt. Meyer KIA, 1 crew member saved

25.08.40_____1./ZG2___Oblt. Goetz and Uffz. Haupt WIA/POW
25.08.40_____1./ZG2___Lt. Westphal and Ogfr. Brief KIA
25.08.40_____1./ZG2___Uffz. Becker and Gefr. Wopzel WIA/POW
25.08.40_____1./ZG2___Uffz. Horner and 1 crew member MIA

30.08.40_____5./ZG2___Hpt. Schuldt and Uffz. Dyroff KIA

02.09.40_____1./ZG2___Lt. Schipper and Gefr. Schockenhoff POW
02.09.40_____2./ZG2___Uffz. Deuker and Uffz. Krapp MIA
02.09.40_____2./ZG2___Fw. Beil and Ogfr. Oehl KIA

03.09.40_____1./ZG2___Oblt. Gottschalk and Uffz. Hoffmann POW
03.09.40_____1./ZG2___Oblt. Müller POW, Uffz. Korn KIA
03.09.40_____1./ZG2___Fw. Wagenbreth and Uffz. Schubert KIA
03.09.40_____1./ZG2___Oblt. Messner and Ogfr. Santoni POW
03.09.40_____1./ZG2___Obfw. Winkler and Flieger Weiler POW

04.09.40__Stab/ZG40?__Oblt. Schäfer and Uffz. Bendjus POW

07.09.40_____1./ZG2___Lt. Kislinger KIA, Uffz. Dahnke POW
07.09.40_____1./ZG2___Fw. Jakob and Fw. Ottersbach KIA
07.09.40_____1./ZG2___Oblt. Granz and Fw. Schutel (or Schubel) POW
07.09.40_____2./ZG2___Lt. Schonemann and Uffz. Mescheele KIA
07.09.40_____2./ZG2___Lt. Abert and Uffz. Scharf KIA
07.09.40_____2./ZG2___Lt. Stix POW, Gefr. Hetz KIA
07.09.40_____2./ZG2___Oblt. Brede POW, Uffz. Galla KIA

11.09.40_____1./ZG2___Gefr. Kling and Gefr. Sossner MIA

28.09.40_____1./ZG2___Hpt. Heinlein and 1 crew member (mechanic) KIA (ferry flight, crashed because of bad weather conditions near Memmingen)

That's all. May be someone of you is interested in.

So long!
Bf110

chuckschmitz 2nd June 2010 03:10

Re: Losses of ZG2 in BoB
 
Mason's book shows the ones shotdown, off Portland, on 11/8/40 all claimed by 609 Sq. Another shotdown off Swanage claimed by a Huuricane of 213 Sq. Of course that is only one source of information.

Evgeny Velichko 3rd June 2010 21:52

Re: Losses of ZG2 in BoB
 
Very interesting information.

May we know Your grandfathers name/rank further (after ZG2 in 1940) regiments/Gruppen where he served?

Bf 110 4th June 2010 18:12

Re: Losses of ZG2 in BoB
 
Hello Evgeny,

thanks for your reply.
Sorry, but I don't want to have his name on the internet.
He was the radio operator of Gruppenkommandeur I./ZG2 Hauptmann Heinlein. I guess his rank during the BoB was Feldwebel. It's hard to get some sorted info's about his career, because he's 96 years old by now.

Hope you appreciate.

Regards,
Bf 110

John Vasco 4th June 2010 18:58

Re: Losses of ZG2 in BoB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bf 110 (Post 107980)
Hello Evgeny,

thanks for your reply.
Sorry, but I don't want to have his name on the internet.
He was the radio operator of Gruppenkommandeur I./ZG2 Hauptmann Heinlein. I guess his rank during the BoB was Feldwebel. It's hard to get some sorted info's about his career, because he's 96 years old by now.

Hope you appreciate.

Regards,
Bf 110


There is a hell of a lot of information regarding Bf 110 crews and units already out in printed form. What is the actual problem with advising those who are interested of the name of Heinlein's Bordfunker during the Battle of Britain?

Let's put it bluntly. If you're not prepared to assist people in some small way, why should anybody bother to attempt to assist you? Research is, after all, a two way street...

By the way, there are errors in that list of yours.

Bf 110 4th June 2010 20:22

Re: Losses of ZG2 in BoB
 
Hello John,

please calm down. :)
I'm just careful on the internet. If somebody wants to know more about my grandfather he can send me a personal message. I will answer it and everything is fine.
Sorry, but this is the only way I will do it.

Regards,
Bf 110


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