He111 12./KG53 crashed on Juli 28, 1941 in Bourges, France
 

Hi,

Does anyone have more information concerning this crash? Was the He111 attack or was their crash the result of bad landing/ take-off?

H-2 Werknr 2324 of 12./KG53

Crew:

FF: Lt. Heinrich Egermann +
BO: Gefr. Friedrich Scheithauer +
BF: Gefr. Egidius Rieger +
BS: Gefr. Richard Müller +

Thanks in advance,

Thomas

Re: He111 12./KG53 crashed on Juli 28, 1941 in Bourges, France
 

Sorry, just see I'm in the wrong section of the forum :( Can the moderator please move this to the right section.

Thx!

Re: He111 12./KG53 crashed on Juli 28, 1941 in Bourges, France
 

Bonjour Thomas,

The BA-MA document/microfilm I have read at the Freiburg Archives indicates:
- Towards Bourges, France - Plane hit the ground involuntarily -

Best regards from France,
Frederic

Re: He111 12./KG53 crashed on Juli 28, 1941 in Bourges, France
 

Bonjour Frederic,

Thanks for your reply. Ah :-) I think it's your website were i found: "Percute le sol involontairement". (http://www.fred.henoff.free.fr/liste_Tues_German.html)

I don't know if it is save to assume that it was just a landing accident and not because of fighter involvement or damaged return from a mission.

Best regards from Holland,

Thomas

Re: He111 12./KG53 crashed on Juli 28, 1941 in Bourges, France
 

Right Thomas, it’s my website.

"Percute le sol involontairement" is the French translation of the German information I found at Freiburg. It is perhaps not necessarily a fighter claim because I have many involuntary crashes on or around Bourges and Avord airfields. About your loss remember that the fourth Gruppen were often planned for training of the aircrews before being posted to an operational Gruppe.

By the way, You have interesting things regarding this unit?

Best regards,
Frederic

Re: He111 12./KG53 crashed on Juli 28, 1941 in Bourges, France
 

You are right Frédéric, about the fourth Gruppen. Kiehl's loss list says that the plane crashed because of "Absturz" and not "Unfall". I know that this still doesn't say much about the reason behind their crash/loss.

Will send you a PM later today.

Kind regards,

Thomas