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Peter Kassak 30th June 2010 19:36

Emil of H.J. Marseille
 
Hi all,

I am not much in focus of H.J. Marseille and his planes. I found out that there are photographic evidences on his four Friedrich messerschmitts. But does anything changed in last few years in identification of his Emil messerschmitt he flew in early years? Any info and tips would help.
Thanks

Peter D Evans 30th June 2010 20:01

Re: Emil of H.J. Marseille
 
You need to get your hands on "Hans-Joachim Marseille, A Resource Guide to the Aces and their Aircraft" by J.H.Kitchens III and J.R.Beaman Jr [Chevron, 2007] as this covers details of 11 of his Bf109E's. For an online example, click here... and we also discussed it at length over on the LEMB here.

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

Peter Kassak 30th June 2010 20:26

Re: Emil of H.J. Marseille
 
Thansk Peter,I am aware of the existence of book

11 of Emils? It is much more than I expected...
I am looking for the data to create profiles. Dunno if I buy a book just for this reason. Anyone maybe can help with the best documented sample? :)
THANX

thenelm 4th July 2010 22:24

Re: Emil of H.J. Marseille
 
All Emil losses listed below - one of the machine from Apr-41 was coded 'yellow 7' per Wübbe. Don't remember which one specifically.
Bf 109E-4, 3579, MARSEILLE, Fhr. Hans-Joachim, 158, , 1.(J), LG 2, weiße, 14 +, CK+CT, , 02-Sep-40, Bruchlandung., , Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.2, p.399; Prien, JG 77, I, p.373; Mason, p.341; BoB, T&N, p.617, , Fl.Pl. Calais-Marck, 50%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 5094, MARSEILLE, Fhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 1.(J), LG 2, , , , , 23-Sep-40, Luftkampf. Ditched into Kanal. F rescued., , Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.2, p.401; Prien, JG 77, I, p.393; Mason, p.408; BoB, T&N, p.656., , Kanal, 100%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 5579, MARSEILLE, Fhr. Hans-Joachim, 158, , 1.(J), LG 2, , , , , 11-Sep-40, Notlandung after Luftkampf with Hurricane., Loss report says WNr.5797. Latest Prien says 5579., Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.2, p.399; Prien, JG 77, I, p.385; Mason, p.382; BoB, T&N, p.638, , Wissant, 75%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 2032, MARSEILLE, Hans-Joachim, , , 3.(J), LG 2, , , , , 29-Oct-40, Bruchlandung after Luftkampf., Is this Marseille??, Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.2, p.401; Prien, JG 77, I, p. 416; Mason, p.465; BoB, T&N, p.703, Prien letter, Wissant, 25%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, , MARSEILLE, Ltn. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, , , , , 14-Jun-41, Notlandung due to engine damage., RK, EL, S, Br., X.Fl.Korps/Afrika, Wübbe, Marseille, p.22, , eigenem Gebiet, b, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, , MARSEILLE, Ltn. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, , , , , 16-Jun-41, Notlandung due to Luftkampf over Tobruk. Blindlandung., RK, EL, S, Br., X.Fl.Korps/Afrika, Wübbe, Marseille, p.22, , Ain-el-Gazala, b, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, , MARSEILLE, Ofhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, , , , , 06-Apr-41, Flak. Safe landing., , Balkan, Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.374; Prien/Rodeike/Stemmer, Stab & I./JG 27, p.539, , Raum Laibach, b, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 1259, MARSEILLE, Ofhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, gelbe, 13 + (?), , , 20-Apr-41, Notlandung due to engine damage., , X.Fl.Korps/Afrika, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.374; Prien/Rodeike/Stemmer, Stab & I./JG 27, p.540; Scutts, Bf 109 Aces of NA & the Med, p.28, , bei Cahela, 80%, H, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 5160, MARSEILLE, Ofhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, gelbe, , , , 23-Apr-41, Injured in Bauchlandung due to Luftkampf with Hurricanes., , X.Fl.Korps/Afrika, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.374; Prien/Rodeike/Stemmer, Stab & I./JG 27, p.540; Wübbe, H.J. Marseille, p.136 photo, , Raum Tobruk, 100%, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, , MARSEILLE, Ofhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, gelbe, 6 +, , , 28-Apr-41, Claimed his 9th Abschusses, a Blenheim. His 2nd in NA., , Afrika, Wübbe, Marseille, p.138-39, , nordwestlich Tobruk auf See, -, F, , ,
Bf 109E-7, 1567, MARSEILLE, Ofhr. Hans-Joachim, , , 3., JG 27, , , , , 21-May-41, Luftkampf with enemy fighters. Bruchlandung behind own lines., , X.Fl.Korps/Afrika, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.4; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.374; Prien/Rodeike/Stemmer, Stab & I./JG 27, p.540, , Raum Tobruk, 40%, F, , ,

Peter Kassak 5th July 2010 12:59

Re: Emil of H.J. Marseille
 
Wow,
thanks a lot :)


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