9 April 1940 Ju52 3./KGrzbV.103 shot down
 

Hi guys

The above was shot down by German AA fire during the first day of the invasion of Norway. It crashed into Oslo Fjord with the deaths of three crewmen.

I urgently seek the identities of these airmen.

Cheers
Brian

Re: 9 April 1940 Ju52 3./KGrzbV.103 shot down
 

Found pilot Fw. A.Steenhold KIA on 40-04-09 from 3./KGzbV 102.
Crashed Fornebu (No)

Frans.A

Re: 9 April 1940 Ju52 3./KGrzbV.103 shot down
 

Sorry. Unit 3./KGzbV 103

Re: 9 April 1940 Ju52 3./KGrzbV.103 shot down
 

Brian,

'Urgently' ? Here is what I currently have listed and I can find no record of these airmen in the VDK:

3./KGr.zbV 103 Junkers Ju52/3m (6423). Badly damaged by ground fire during aborted landing of troops of II./IR 324 at Oslo-Fornebu 8.05 a.m. Crashed and burned out. BO Hptmn Richard Wagner (Gruppenkommandeur) killed, FF Oberlt Robert Sandt (Staffelkapitän) injured, Fw Alfred Steenhold, Uffz[ ]Biemer, and Gefr[ ]Röhrs believed unhurt. Aircraft NG+VD 100% write-off.

Re: 9 April 1940 Ju52 3./KGrzbV.103 shot down
 

Thanks Frans and Peter

Urgently? Yes! Information required for memorial list of German aircrew lost to 'friendly fire' for inclusion of Volume I of my forthcoming series. So, again my thanks.

Cheers
Brian

Re: 9 April 1940 Ju52 3./KGrzbV.103 shot down
 

Were does it say that it was shot down by own FLAK? There was heavy fighting going on at Oslo Fornebu. A lot of Luftwaffe planes were destroyed/damaged due to ground fire, from Norwegian troops.

Junker

Re: 9 April 1940 Ju52 3./KGrzbV.103 shot down
 

6423 or 6483 ??


Rémi

Re: 9 April 1940 Ju52 3./KGrzbV.103 shot down
 

Hi guys

Now I know why I hadn't entered this in my manuscript! My source was the Nordic Aviation website, but it was the aircraft flown by Fw Merzenich that fell to German ship gunfire on this date, though there were no fatalities. I had looked at the wrong entry. So my problem is solved!!

Thanks for helping with this
Cheers

Brian

Re: 9 April 1940 Ju52 3./KGrzbV.103 shot down
 

I have WNr. 6423 with WNr. 6483 listed twice for later dates. The former would appear to be the correct WNr.

Ju 52/3m, 6483, n.n., , I., KG.z.b.V. 1, , , , , 31-May-41, Bruchlandung., , Lfl.4/Transportverbände/Einsatz Kreta, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , Iraklion, 20%, F, , ,
Ju 52/3m, 6483, n.n., , , Transpst.V.Fl.Korps, , , , , 13-Jul-41, Pilot error., , Transportverbände/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5, , Tyranowka, 20%, H, , ,

Re: 9 April 1940 Ju52 3./KGrzbV.103 shot down
 

On 13.04.1940 Transportchef Land (commanding all land-based transports for Denmark and Norway) issued the following loss report for 09.04.1940:
K.Gr.z.b.V. 103: Gr.Kdr. Hptm. Wagner killed, Flugzeugführer Obfw. Gürther killled, Staffelkpt. Oblt. Köder killed, Flugzeugführer Lt. Papke killed, Bordfunker Uffz. Brückner killed, Bordmech. Fw. Klawitter injured, Bordfunker Uffz. Brimann injured and Staff.kapt. Oblt. Sand injured.
These are crews of two different aircraft. Hptm. Wagner was killed by groundfire from Norwegian troops defending Fornebu airfield. It is claimed that the rest of the crew in his aircraft (apparently W.Nr. 6423) survived and that the plane returned to Denmark. Can someone clear up this problem ??Who belonged to which aircraft and did Hptm. Wagners aircraft crash at Fornebu ?