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martin75 29th August 2010 12:36

some planes lost over Kronstadt september 1941
 
Hello,

can someone give me infos (exact type, precise unit, crew, ...) on some german planes destroyed during raids on russian naval base of Kronstadt between 21 and 27 september 1941 ?
Ju88 WNr 4330 3/KG77
Ju88 WNr 2153 4/KG77
Ju87 WNr 5735 and 5836 of St G 2
Bf 109 WNr 3639 and 4199 of JG 27

other planes completing this list or any detail concerning these raids are welcome !

Thanks in advance

Greetings

Claude

S Sheflin 30th August 2010 02:29

Re: some planes lost over Kronstadt september 1941
 
Claude,

Regarding your Bf 109 WNr. 3639, there may be a problem with either your list or mine. In my database it is listed as being:


E-7, 3639, 22+, NC+DX, 3./JG 106, Fw. Karl-Heinz Zimmermann, WIA/LK US Bombers, 44/01/29, nr. Frankfurt

My source for this information is listed as being this forum on 11/11/01, and a note indicates this may be the last “E” combat loss with the USAAF?

Steve Sheflin

Nokose 30th August 2010 04:26

Re: some planes lost over Kronstadt september 1941
 
According to JFV teil 6/ I on the 21Sep41 in the area of Kronstadt 9./JG 27 lost two (100%) in an air battle with I-153.
Bf 109 E-4 (3639) ge. 2 + Lt. Joachim Hinkelmann
Bf 109 E-7 (1499) ge. 10 + Uffz Ewald Hacker

Stab/JG 27 Obfw Erwin Sawalisch shot down two I-153 (possibly the two I-153 from 71 IAP KBF who claimed 2 Bf 109) in the Leningrad area about the same time.

G.R.Morrison 30th August 2010 04:33

Re: some planes lost over Kronstadt september 1941
 
Here’s what we have on the Werknummern you listed. GRM

Ju 88A-5 WNr.4330, Oblt. Günther Jochim,(B)/n.n. (F), Stab I./KG 77
23-Sep-1941 WIA due to enemy fighters. Fl.Pl. Dno 20% damaged

Ju 87B-2 WNr.5735, Hptm. Ernst KUPFER, I./St.G. 2
28-Sep-1941 Stkp. Crew injured due to Notlandung, crashed in trees. Bs Fw. Heinrich Barnebeck

Ju 87R-2 WNr.5836, Hptm. Ernst-Siegfried STEEN, 301missions, Stab III./St.G. 2, T6+CD
23-Sep-1941 Gr.Kdr. Crew KIA due to Flak. Pilot awarded a posthumous Ritterkreuz. Bf Uffz. Alfred Scharnowski was Rudel's gunner. Location: PlQu. 90 22

Bf 109E-7 WNr.4199, Uffz. Ewald Hacker, 9./JG 27, “gelbe 10”
21-Sep-1941 WIA due to Luftkampf. Raum Kronstadt

Bf 109E-4 WNr.3639, Ltn. Joachim Hinkelmann, 3 victories, 9./JG 27 “gelbe 2”, Stammkennzeichen: NC+DX
21-Sep-1941 Reported lost due to Luftkampf. F returned. Raum Kronstadt. This machine had earlier served with the 6./JG27, and was later used by a ground attack unit before ending its days with JG106

martin75 30th August 2010 09:05

Re: some planes lost over Kronstadt september 1941
 
All my thanks to you Gentlemen !

Greetings

Claude

KrisJG3 21st February 2012 18:42

Re: some planes lost over Kronstadt september 1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G.R.Morrison (Post 112730)
Here’s what we have on the Werknummern you listed. GRM
(...)
Ju 87B-2 WNr.5735, Hptm. Ernst KUPFER, I./St.G. 2
28-Sep-1941 Stkp. Crew injured due to Notlandung, crashed in trees. Bs Fw. Heinrich Barnebeck

see photos with Hptm. Ernst KUPFER :

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=Kertsch

Jim P. 22nd February 2012 00:15

Re: some planes lost over Kronstadt september 1941
 
The missing Ju 88 - note that 'KE+OH' is the SKZ for machine, not the VBZ (3Z+_M?).

Ju 88A-5, 2153, n.n., , II., 4., KG 77, , , KE+OH, , 22-Sep-41, Flak. Bo KIA., , Lfl.1/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol.6, Medcalf, bei Kronstadt, 15%, F, Bo Fw. Eugen Schlachter, , Arado Flzg.Werke Brandenburg in Aug-40.


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