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Larry Hickey 10th October 2010 18:17

ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France
 
Hello,

Can anyone ID this Bf109E (unit, date, pilot, etc). Has this one been shown on ebay or elsewhere?

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ht_1916wt_1035

I'm pretty sure that other images of this one have been previously published, and want to get this one nailed down.

Thanx,

F19Gladiator 10th October 2010 18:47

Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France
 
Hi Larry,
Discussed also here at LEMB.
Br
Goran

Larry Hickey 11th October 2010 04:17

Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France
 
Goran,

Thanks. I checked this out and saw the speculation about it possibly being one of the a/c of Marseilles. We'll have to see. I'm trying to remember a photo of a force-landed 109 on the French coast that had a dark camo like this, and carried a White or Yellow 7 for the a/c code. I seem to remember that one of the issues of Luftwaffe im Focus identified this one. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? It would help greatly if we could ID these photos with an aircraft code.

Regards,

ouidjat 11th October 2010 11:31

Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France
 
Hello,

It's far to be established, but I'm sure that everyone here thought immediately to one of Marseille's emergency landing.
For sure it's not a Bf109E-7, but since the Marseille plane WNr. given in lost list is a Bf109E-4/E-4B, why not: Plane pictured has a late canopy windscreen!
Concerning the "White 7" Larry is talking about, described in L. in Focus, It was an Erg./JG26 - if it's the same of course.
Last, keep in mind that WNr.6137, I./JG54, is in JG54 lost list: 25/08/1940, Wissant and it is a Bf109E-1.
Of course, two last pictures given by Goran in LEMB depict the very same plane we are talking about for the reason he explained: Propeller blades bending.

Cheers, Franck.

Larry Hickey 11th October 2010 16:24

Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France
 
Franck,

I agree that the images posted on the LEMB are of the same aircraft. I've been carefully saving photos of Luftwaffe beach landings/crashes from the WC and BoB period for several years, and this one does't otherwise lend itself to identification, unless it's the one from Erg/JG26, which IIRC was taken in early 1941. Does anyone remember the issue of "Luftwaffe im Focus" that featured pictures of this one, and its identification?

Regards,

bn785371 11th October 2010 16:48

Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France
 
Hi Larry,
I have a photo of this Erg/JG26 Me109E.It's a E3/4,yellow nose and landed on a shingle seashore!
Regards
René

John Vasco 11th October 2010 17:10

Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bn785371 (Post 115124)
Hi Larry,
I have a photo of this Erg/JG26 Me109E.It's a E3/4,yellow nose and landed on a shingle seashore!
Regards
René

An E-3/4 with MGs in the wings...?

Larry Hickey 11th October 2010 19:05

Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France
 
John,

This would make it likely that referenced photos that started this thread off are NOT the Erg/JG26 aircraft. As you point out, the photos show this as an E-1 with no cannon in th wings.

Regards,

christian 11th October 2010 19:24

Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France
 
Hi

It is not the plane from the I./JG 54, the 2.Staffel had red numbers, and on the first foto i see a part of a black number. Possibly it is a Me Bf 109 E-8, from the JG 3 ???

Greetings Christian

ouidjat 11th October 2010 19:56

Re: ID of force-landed Bf109E on beach at Wissant France
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christian (Post 115139)
...on the first foto i see a part of a black number. Possibly it is a Me Bf 109 E-8, from the JG 3 ???

Hi Christian,

:confused: Where? Did I miss something?

Regards, Franck.


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