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Marc-André Haldimann 24th October 2010 14:24

A few "Sunday" Bf 109's
 
Hi there Franck,


Here a Sunday treat of "fresh" Bf 109's...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01...n/photostream/
A "regular" Bf 109 G-6 (?)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01...n/photostream/
How to fix a blown tire with the helping hand of at least 20 buddies... Camo of this G-6/R6 is of interest.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01...n/photostream/
W.Nr. 760070: one of the Györ produced Bf 109 G-14, seen near Berlin, 1945.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemon01...n/photostream/
One of the Plzen Bf 109 G-14's

http://cgi.ebay.de/Abgeschmierte-Me1...#ht_500wt_1156
Bf 109 F-4, "White 1", IV./JG 77 (?)

http://cgi.ebay.de/FOTO-FLUGZEUG-Me1...ht_1043wt_1139
Bf 109 E-7

http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Luftwaffe-2-...#ht_606wt_1139
And a really tough one!

Cheers
Marc

Dénes Bernád 24th October 2010 14:49

Re: A few "Sunday" Bf 109's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 115830)

This is 'White 12', a Bf 109F.

Marc-André Haldimann 24th October 2010 14:58

Re: A few "Sunday" Bf 109's
 
Köszönöm szepen, Dragŕ Dénes

How can you see the "White 12"? Did this machine burn out or is it an all over RLM 76 camouflage?

Cheers
Marc

ouidjat 24th October 2010 16:03

Re: A few "Sunday" Bf 109's
 
Hi Marc,

"Weisse 1" is not a a IV./JG77 plane but 7./JG54, WNr.9619 flew by Scholz, Günther. Oblt., Luga, 1 Aoűt 1941.

As for the G-6/R6 with amazing camouflage... I think it's a III./JG5 machine; just a bet.

Last that 5.(S)./LG2 machine. An E-7?? Still with an early canopy windscreen, including a rear view mirror!! Note no yellow cowling but with a fuselage band and the two emblems rarely seen together.
As usual with that unit it's hard to say where and when and what type of Bf109E.

Tschöö, Franck.

Marc-André Haldimann 25th October 2010 00:36

Re: A few "Sunday" Bf 109's
 
Franck,

Thanks for your always appreciated complements/corrections

Cheers
Marc

ouidjat 25th October 2010 09:51

Re: A few "Sunday" Bf 109's
 
You're Welcome Marc,

:piliot:

Cheers, Franck.

net_sailor 25th October 2010 15:28

Re: A few "Sunday" Bf 109's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 115836)
Last that 5.(S)./LG2 machine. An E-7?? Still with an early canopy windscreen, including a rear view mirror!! Note no yellow cowling but with a fuselage band and the two emblems rarely seen together.
As usual with that unit it's hard to say where and when and what type of Bf109E.

E-7 is correct, note the additional oil tank for long range (Jabo-Rei) version. IMHO it's upgraded older airframe with early canopy.

Dénes Bernád 25th October 2010 20:54

Re: A few "Sunday" Bf 109's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 115832)
Köszönöm szepen, Dragŕ Dénes

How can you see the "White 12"? Did this machine burn out or is it an all over RLM 76 camouflage?

Szivesen, Marc-André!
I have another photo of this very aircraft, broken in two, that's how I know the ID. However, I don't know the unit, location, or time.
The painting is a white winter camo.

Marc-André Haldimann 25th October 2010 22:38

Re: A few "Sunday" Bf 109's
 
Kitünö! Szokszor köszönöm, Dénes!

Excellent, thanks a lot!

Cheers
Marc

ouidjat 28th October 2010 13:19

Re: A few "Sunday" Bf 109's
 
Hi there,

Back to this 5.(S)./LG2 machine....
I do pretend that the two following pictures (3 & 4) represent the same airplane... Beyond the "C" (Red or Black, I choose Red) we have the same canopy style and - more important - that white vertical scratch in the black triangle.

Since you have picture #4 in your hand look at the left wing tip: Done?
Now look that one
http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=5786
and that one
http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=6101

Still the same position, still the same unit and still the same wing tip!

Last look at the last one: #5: Still the same discribed characteristics plus the same background than the second coming from Falcon site.
#3, 4 & 5 come from old eBay auctions: As you can read #5 is captionned as being taken at Vassiliéva, 3 Aoűt 1941.

So what we have? a Bf109E-7 (but I still don't agree with that E-7), 5.(S)./LG2, "Rotes C", Vassiliéva, August 1941 (Remove the day 3 since obviously we can see the same plane at different stages).

Cheers, Franck.


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