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ouidjat 31st October 2010 06:20

Unknown camo on Bf109G
 
Good morning,

I've never seen that camouflage; any suggestions?
http://cgi.ebay.de/3-Fotos-Me-109-Ab...item3362258752
I can't resist to load the pictures:

Cheers, Franck.

Pilot 31st October 2010 19:07

Re: Unknown camo on Bf109G
 
Look interesting, like desert adaptation but who knows.

John Beaman 1st November 2010 12:38

Re: Unknown camo on Bf109G
 
JG 4 used a pattern like that in Italy in 1943/44. Also, IIRC a recon unit based in the Balkans used a similar pattern but with seemingly lighter colors.

ouidjat 1st November 2010 17:58

Re: Unknown camo on Bf109G
 
Hi John,

except I don't see any white band around the fuselage... but, yes, two little things below the canopy indicating this is a Trop version... It's a good suggestion John, thank you. It's a pity I don't have pictures of such pattern.

Cheers, Franck.

Cpt_Farrel 1st November 2010 22:55

Re: Unknown camo on Bf109G
 
My first thought was of Heinrich Klöppers "White 1" of JG1 that he bellylanded in November 1943. The camoflage is similar and the area is right too. On the other hand I'm not sure how reliable the caption is as it says 1940 which is clearly wrong.

ouidjat 1st November 2010 23:57

Re: Unknown camo on Bf109G
 
Hi Anders

Definitly the caption is wrong concerning the date but may be not the place (Belgium)... III gruppe was going around after May 1943; Holland, Germany, France...
Is there a Red band around the fuselage?..

Seems the answer is not obvious.

Cheers, Franck.

Cpt_Farrel 2nd November 2010 16:31

Re: Unknown camo on Bf109G
 
Klöpper didn't have a red band on his aircraft in November and on this aircraft it looks more like a segment of camoflag in the general area where the red band should have been.

Cheers! / Anders

ouidjat 2nd November 2010 17:36

Re: Unknown camo on Bf109G
 
Hello,

Yes, I know Anders, I was just talking for the general case ...
I got another picture, still on eBay, but a Bf109F that time... Camouflage looks very close to the one we are talking about (Still a white(?) 4 but it's just a mere coincidence); here it is:

Regards, Franck.

Primoz 3rd November 2010 13:28

Re: Unknown camo on Bf109G
 
Another possibility would be I./JG 4.

ouidjat 3rd November 2010 16:58

Re: Unknown camo on Bf109G
 
Hello Primoz,

This solution is elegant!
Came from JG77 elements, got G-6/Trop, fought in Northern Italy - last, looking at that picture we (I) think about brown camouflages... I like it.
The unit was in Belgium area too and did have - at the beginning - Bf109F until November 1943... What else?
... And the building in the Bf109F picture background looks like a rumanian monastry -at least what looks like a steeple. Is it asking too much?

Thanks for this comment.

Regards, Franck.


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