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arnaud 4th November 2010 09:03

Bristol Blenheim, 14.05.1940, N6230, 139 Squadron
 
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Bonjour,

As I have quite finished with my researches about Fairey Battle shot down around Sedan. I work now on some Blenheim losses shot down on May 14 1940.

At Remilly-Aillicourt near Sedan, a British aircraft was shot down “n° 6230” according to a French report. I think it is the Bristol Blenheim n° N6230 of No. 139 Squadron. A photo exists showing some pieces of this aircraft on the ground. The quality is very poor and I can’t do anything about it.

Is it a piece of a Blenheim?
Where was this main piece place in the Blenheim?

I hope some specialists could answer to those two questions. I thank them in advance for any suggestion.

Bon vol

Arnaud

Larry 5th November 2010 01:42

Re: Bristol Blenheim, 14.05.1940, N6230, 139 Squadron
 
When I look at this photo the bulged part with a circular hole in it looks like a remote gun barbet that was sometimes fitted under the nose of Blenheims with rearward facing guns

arnaud 5th November 2010 10:25

Re: Bristol Blenheim, 14.05.1940, N6230, 139 Squadron
 
Bonjour Larry,

Squadrons added sometimes to the Blenheim some strange modifications. This Blenheim n° N6230 is supposed to be a Mark IV. This is an early one: shot down in May 1940.

I think this type of gun was available later, but you are perhaps right. Lately I have thought about it. Now I’m looking for a photo for a confirmation.

Merci beaucoup.

Arnaud

Larry 6th November 2010 00:17

Re: Bristol Blenheim, 14.05.1940, N6230, 139 Squadron
 
I hasve just looked at a book Battle-Axe Blenheims, 105 Sqn RAF at War 1940-41' by Stuart Scott published by Alan Sutton Publishing Ltd c 1996

In the book there is plenty of evidence of Blenheims Mk IV in 1940 with small sized under nose gun barbets - which are more streamlined that the later square versions see with two rear facing machine guns. I see no reason why 139 Sqn which worked so closely with 105 Sqn, should not be similarly equipped. 82 Sqn Blenheims also had the same barbet in 1940

arnaud 6th November 2010 09:54

Re: Bristol Blenheim, 14.05.1940, N6230, 139 Squadron
 
Larry,

Unfortunately I don't have this book. But I have at home "The Bristol Blenheim" and "the forgotten Bomber" written by M. Graham Warner. Is there a photo in those two books about what you mean?

Thank you

Arnaud

Larry 7th November 2010 01:21

Re: Bristol Blenheim, 14.05.1940, N6230, 139 Squadron
 
Arnaud,

Have a look at the first and third aircraft in this photo, which shows the perspex type of under fuselage barbet.

http://ww2today.com/wp-content/uploa...lenheim-IV.jpg

Also the second of the Blenheims in this additional photo also shows the same barbet

http://www.battleofbritainbeacon.org...nd/CH732LG.jpg

I hope this helps

Larry 7th November 2010 01:31

Re: Bristol Blenheim, 14.05.1940, N6230, 139 Squadron
 
And some more reference photos

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...lenheims-1.jpg

http://www.rafbombercommand.com/pics...wo_b_foura.jpg

arnaud 7th November 2010 09:31

Re: Bristol Blenheim, 14.05.1940, N6230, 139 Squadron
 
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Thank you very much for your help.

There are indeed a lot of modification on Blenheims.

Here is a photo of a No. 110 Squadron Blenheim shot down 14.05.1940 near Sedan. I have also confirmation of machine gun behind the engine on a No. 139 Squadron Blenheim too in May 40.

Bye


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