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cz_raf 6th November 2010 18:15

Bay of Biscay patrol 18.8.1942
 
Hi all,

I would like to ask if anyone can help me with additional information for this date. I have already some basic information available on the internet and details from Bloody Biscay by Chris Goss.

The further details I am looking for are:

1) JG2 was escorting AR 196 from 5./B.F.Gr. 196 on this day. Any details about this patrol, like time, area, number of planes?
2) any ifnormation about Obfw. Friedrich Jost from 5./B.F.Gr. 196 much appreciated, including details about his flight on this day
3) Oblt. Bruno Stolle claimed a RAF Coastal Command Wellington on escort.I have full detials about the RAF plane but I am interested in the details from German side like time of take off, the base, etc.
Also the location of victory will be great as I was unable to find any reference is Tony Wood list for example.

Many thanks in advance for any help.

Pavel


Chris Goss 8th November 2010 13:12

Re: Bay of Biscay patrol 18.8.1942
 
Jost was with 5/196 and then 1/128 from 10 Aug 43. He had the Frontflugspange in Bronze, Silver & Gold. EK 11 14 Dec 40, EK I 30 Aug 41 and Ehrenpokal 11 Sep 42. He was apparrently awarded the DKiG in 1944 with 10/ZG 1

Laurent Rizzotti 8th November 2010 17:31

Re: Bay of Biscay patrol 18.8.1942
 
No location in Prien, but it was victory 19 for Stolle and the claim time was 1108 hrs.

cz_raf 8th November 2010 19:25

Re: Bay of Biscay patrol 18.8.1942
 
Chris - many thanks - it is the first confirmation that such a man exist!

Laurent - also many thanks - but this info creates another questions... according to the 311 Sq ORB the last message was received from the Wellington at 12.34. The British time was at this day one hour in advance (if I checked it correctly) so it was 11.34 of German time... I believe that the Wellington was shot down immediately and crashed as Chris mentioned by the reminiscencess of Stolle in his Bloody Biscay book. So something does not fits here:(

Chris Goss 8th November 2010 20:12

Re: Bay of Biscay patrol 18.8.1942
 
Not sure if you are correct. At this time, UK was on BST (GMT+1). Germans were on GST (GMT+2). Therefore 1234 UK=1334 German?

cz_raf 8th November 2010 20:21

Re: Bay of Biscay patrol 18.8.1942
 
Ooops!
Many thanks for your comment Chris. I will check it out once more but now all my archive is packed so it will take some time but your note is very important!

Pavel

Jan Gazda 9th November 2010 10:13

Re: Bay of Biscay patrol 18.8.1942
 
Hi,

the following page mentions Jost on numerous occasions

http://www.thescale.info/news/publis...90-10ZG1.shtml

hope that it helps

Jan

RT 9th November 2010 13:30

Re: Bay of Biscay patrol 18.8.1942
 
I could add the Wn for the last 2 losses

I ZG1 F Brest FP L abdrosselt FAWS FW190G-3 160337 8 10 unv, Bichler heinz

10 ZG1 Pointe du raz 9 km N Besch,eig, FL FW190 5891 100

What was exactl. the fate of Bichler ..,,,???

Rémi

cz_raf 11th November 2010 21:36

Re: Bay of Biscay patrol 18.8.1942
 
Thanks Jan - very useful source, but unfortunately I need the 1942:)
Rémi - sorry but I was unable do decode what are you writing about...

Pavel

RT 9th February 2011 17:38

Re: Bay of Biscay patrol 18.8.1942
 
What about Bichler still missing or safe-recovered

???


Rémi


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