Shot down pilots over Greece
 

Hello,

I would appreciate any info concerning some Me 109 pilots shot down in northern Greece near Rupel pass on 6 April 1941.
a)Ofw Adolf Faltings,b) Obfhr Eckard. Both were killed.

Interesting would be the aircraft numbers/codes/signs or damage.


The JG 26 was stationed at Belica that time.One aircraft returned with 50%damage.Any info about this a/c?



Thank you in advance!

Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
 

Hi Aviator

I have only the one

3./LG 2 (no JG 26)

FF. Ofhr. Heinz Eckhardt (+), Bf 109 E7 (W.Nr. 2039) 100% Flaktreffer Kumanovo 06.04.41,

regards

Byron

Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
 

According to :

Air war for Yugoslavia, Greece and Crete - Christopher Shores, Brian Cull and Nicola Malizia, 1987 Grub Street, London, ISBN 0-948817-07-0
P. 231-232
Hurricanes of no. 33 Squadron vs Bf109Es of 8/JG27 over the Rupel Pass on 6 April 1941.
33 Squadron claimed 5 without losses while 8/JG27 lost four aircraft and a fifth crash-landed.
Oberleutnant Arno Becker (StaKa) was killed in "Black 2".
Leutnant Klaus Faber baled out and became POW.
Ofw Gerhard Fromming was wounded and crash-landed his badly damaged "Black 8".
An unnamed pilot baled out of "Black 6" and returned on foot.
No info about the fifth casualty.

Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
 

Hi Byron,

How are you my friend?
I have a problem with that loss! Took me time to get the net sites where I had found it...
Same plane is given in JG5 loss lists. on 30/6/42, Landing accident at Vaernes, 20%.

Cheers, Franck.

Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
 

Dear Aviator ,

From Prien's Book "Die Jgdfliegerbande der deutsche Luftwaffe , Teil 5" :

6/4/1941-Me-109 losses

Oblt. Heinz Deuschle , 6./JG 77 , Pancevo , 100%

Hptm. Herbert Ihlefeld , Stab I(J)/LG2 , 35 km south of Nisch , 100%

Obfhr. Heinz Eckhardt , 3.(J)/LG2 , Kumanovo , 100%

Obfw. Adolf Faltings , 4.(S)/LG2 , Belica-north , 100% , pilot dead

three losses for II.(S)/LG2 without pilot name ,
1) Plovdiv , 2) Belica-north , 3) Belica

Oblt. Arno Becker , 8./JG 27 , west of Gefyroudi (Greece) , 100%, pilot dead

Lt. Klaus Faber , 8./JG 27 , west of Gefyroudi (Greece) , 100%

Obfw. Gerhard Froemming , 8./JG 27 , west of Gefyroudi (Greece) , 100%

Hope this helps ,

Tasos

Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
 

Thank you all!

It seems that rather 5 109s came down shot down by Pattle(2),1 by Winsland,half each Winsland and Cottingham and the last by Wickham.The first 3 are Becker,Faber and Fromming.2 are missing.I thought that Eckard (not Eckhardt/probably other pilot) and Faltings could be the ones.But as you wrote,they belonged to LG2.In this air fight only JG27 109s were involved as far i know.But from some sources i read that 20/30 a/cs were in the air.Could it be possible that the LG2 was hunting together with JG27?
Have a look at http://www.jg27.de/chronik_maerz_41.html which confuses more....


Regards,

Aviator

Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
 

FF. Ofhr. Heinz Eckhardt (+), Bf 109 E7 (W.Nr. 2039) 100% Flaktreffer Kumanovo 06.04.41,

2038 indeed

The Klaus Faber shot down on 6.April 41 nd who became a prisoneer, the same landed a Fw190 in GB in 1943 quite strange oder..

Rémi

Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
 

Thank you RT.

Staffel captain OLt Klaus Faber become prisoner and met his unit again at 27.4.41

regards,

Aviator

Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
 

Hello,

Thank you Rémi, this is a good new! But: "Indeed"? ... any source?

Regards, Franck

Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
 

The usual daily returns, I think that first Wn given 2039 was a mistake the 2038 is very clear in returns

Rémi