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Glimspur 15th January 2005 01:52

So, was there a JU-88 G-7??
 
I'm sorry if this comes under the heading of "dumb question", even sorrier if it comes under the heading of "very dumb question" :lol: But seriously guys, did the G-7 version of the JU-88 powered by the Jumo 213E with water/methanol injection exist??
If the version of the JU-88 powered by the Jumo 213E was not designated the "G-7", what was its proper designation?
How many of these aircraft were produced and when was their service introduction with the Nachtjagdgeschwader?

Thanks much!
Glimspur

Don Pearson 15th January 2005 02:08

Ju 88 G-7
 
Just happen to be looking through Brian Filley's "Junkers Ju 88 in Action pt 2", from Squadron. Accordingly the G-7 variant with Jumo 213E-1 engine was under development with 4 prototypes, but never entered production. The first 2 were destroyed by bombing in March 1945 and the latter 2 had not received their powerplants by war's end.

Don

Glimspur 15th January 2005 02:25

Thanks Don! So, what JU-88 was in operation with the methanol injected Jumo 213E engines? (I don't have that Squadron title.)

Best Regards,
Glimspur

ArtieBob 15th January 2005 04:16

Ju 88 G-7
 
The Ju 88 G-7 was in production as the war ended, i.e., they were in the assembly process. There is no data I have seen that indicates that any were actually completed or flown, much less having made it to any operational unit. So the only Ju 88 G-series that appear to have actually made it to the end of the production line were the G-1 , G-6 and G-10. Forget the books, if there is no primary source material to support the claims, they fall in the category of unconfirmed rumors. There is a JFM organization with members from the WWII period, perhaps they have some more solid information supporting this subject.

Best regards,

Artie Bob

Glimspur 15th January 2005 04:40

Thank you Artie Bob!

I'm embarrassingly new to researching airplanes, my field has always been armor, but I have begun to absorb the realization that the books on certain subjects come up short. In the case of the JU-88, there aren't that many that I can find in English. So please be patient with me.

I must say that this Board is refreshingly informative and I am really enjoying reading some of the fantastic information posted here. My only regret is that I can't contribute in return as much as I ask.

Best Regards,
Glimspur

Glimspur 16th January 2005 18:34

So Guys, all of this still leaves the question of which model of the JU-88 flew with Jumo 213E engines?

Best Regards,
Glimspur

ArtieBob 16th January 2005 21:21

Ju 88s with Jumo 213E
 
The answer to your question is fuzzy. The Ju 88 G-7 in various documents are shown to have been projected with either the Jumo 213E or DB 603E/F. Whether any production G-7s actually flew is questionable and if so, which engines were available at that time is also not clear. All data I have had access to indicates all G-6 production had Jumo 213A engines. There were prototype Ju 88s scheduled which had some G-7 features, V112 to V115. How many of these reached flight stage, I have not been able to confirm and if so, how many of the definitive G-7 changes had been incorporated. At least two apparently were completed, but damaged in a strafing attack at Brandenburg-Briest.
New information becomes available from time to time, just recently a photo came to the surface which shows a late war Ju 88 at Brandenburg, apparently with four bladed propellors, this would possibly be one of the G-7 prototypes.

Best regards,

Artie Bob

Glimspur 17th January 2005 00:39

I think your answer is excellent Artie Bob! :D :D

But now I'm really puzzled. Us armor types are used to looking at a set of unquestioned stats: Panther Tank--maximum speed--55Kmph.
Now, I've seen statistics for the illusory JU-88 G-7 that quote its maximum speed at 389 mph. I don't know where these statistics came from. Could you perhaps point me to a webpage or reference book with good statistics on the JU-88 G-6 and G-10?

If you can, I promise to climb back in my turret, button down the hatch and not bother you good folks for a while! :lol: :lol:

Best Regards,
Glimspur

Aziraphale 17th January 2005 11:50

Hello,

Interesting subject - but I'm somewhat confused about the Ju 88 G-7 now.

I thought I had read in my sources (secondary sources only for this version, though) that the G-7 main difference to the G-6 was the use of the Ju 188 wingtips. Am I wrong there?

I do not really have a firm grasp of the Jumo 213 series, either...
Could perhaps someone sum up the characteristics of the Ju 88 G-7 as known to date. Please name the source of your data - this makes it easier to trace.

Cheers, Azi.

Jim P. 17th January 2005 15:05

Single recorded loss, but given WNr. this is....
 
more likely a G-1.

Ju 88G-7 710438 III. NJG 4 04-Mar-45 Notlandung after technical failure. Fern Nachtjagd Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12); Intruders Over Britain, p.200 Steenwijk 75% F


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