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Marcel Hogenhuis 27th January 2011 12:21

missing Me210
 
Hello

Where did Me210 (Wnr. 0187) crash? From the Mankau-Stocker-Petrick books, we know that this Me210 A-1 from Luftbeob.St. 3 crashed 11th February 1944 and that Bordfunker Fw. Karl Schlotter was killed.

Any information of this crash and the unknown pilot would be much appreciated because I am preparing an article about this unit in Venlo! Many thanks in advance.

Marcel Hogenhuis (Study Group Venlo Airfield in WW-2)
marcelhogenhuis[at]gmail.com

RT 27th January 2011 12:57

Re: missing Me210
 
I noted Koblenz area , nd MG fire , so probably returned fire from an Heavy , both crew jumped out Schlotter the bf died, pilot unkonwn

Rémi

Marcel Hogenhuis 27th January 2011 21:59

Re: missing Me210
 
Bonsoir Remi
Thanks for your always extra piece of information. Because the Me210 were used by the 'Tagesschwarm' of this Luft.Beob.St. 3 I guess that this aircraft was lost at daylight ?
Are these losses recorded in the Verluste bei Schulen und sonstige Verbande?

Amicalement, Marcel

RT 27th January 2011 22:32

Re: missing Me210
 
For sure loss occured under daylight , that Me210 by night would hv been a blind cat searching for a dead mouse

My info comes from a book on the Messer. , no spurs in the school returns , the Luftbeob.st. was really a combat unit so no way to find it in these returns

Seems that Matti don't hv the NVM...

Remi

Marcel Hogenhuis 28th January 2011 14:39

Re: missing Me210
 
Bonjour Remi,

Thanks for clearing that up! There are 2-3 claims of USAAF fighters, claiming a Me410 near Frankfurt and/or SW of Frankfurt, a mix up with the Me210 is possible... Well, at least we have traces now!

All the best, Marcel

Andreas Brekken 28th January 2011 15:32

Re: missing Me210
 
Hi, guys

The loss was reported in the loss record of GenQu 6 Abt on February 15th 1944. Nothing further to add though, Remi has covered the details.

Regards,
Andreas B

drgondog 28th January 2011 17:41

Re: missing Me210
 
Remi/Andreas - I also found reference to 5 me 110s and several Me 410s plus 3 109s and 2 Fw 190s credited the 354th FG. I know one of the LW units was II/JG11 led by Gunther Specht.

All the scores were north, southwest, south and in the general Frankfurt area from about 1150 to 1230

This was the mission that 354CO Col Martin shot down a 109 in a head on pass and collided with the debris. Uffr Reissle bailed successfully as did Martin

RT 28th January 2011 19:35

Re: missing Me210
 
loss record of GenQu 6 Abt on February 15th 1944

Andreas, you mean records showing the day /unit/ type of loss ?? Or full details returns ??

Rémi

In case that you found the second ones , you hv really in hand the Holygrail whatever is its color...


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