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steve sheridan 13th March 2011 13:41

II/KG157 later II/KG27 Crew names.
 
Morning can anybody help with the first names of the following officers serving with KG157 circa April 1938 and possibly later when the unit was redesignated as II/KG27.

Lt Bertelsmann Gruppe Adjutant,
Hptm Eschenauer Gruppe Tech.Officer,
Lt Ahlert Gruppe Signals Officer,
Lt Siehe Major Beim Stabe,
Hptm Crone 6/KG157 Staffel Kapitan,
Lt Auffhammer,
Lt Osswald,
Lt Von Lillienskiold, Later Oblt with 4/KG27,
Lt Reinecke,
Lt Imholz,
Oblt Daser,
Oblt Krieger,
Lt Ruppert,
Lt Kahl.

Any help with any of these fellows would be most appreciated.

Best regs,
Steve.

Chris Goss 13th March 2011 14:03

Re: II/KG157 later II/KG27 Crew names.
 
Daser was Edmund (later of KG 40). Auffhammer possibly Fritz (later of II/KG 100). Artur Eschenauer? Hermann Crone? Peter von Lillienskiold.

Doug Stankey 13th March 2011 16:43

Re: II/KG157 later II/KG27 Crew names.
 
The following is our best estimate as to the names of the individuals that you mentioned, as extracted from our files:

BERTELSMANN, Eberhard.
ESCHENAUER, Artur. (DOB: 23.01.06).
AHLERT, Wilhelm. (DOB: 05.11.11).
SIEHE, Eberhard.
CRONE, Hermann. (DOB: 21.05.08).
AUFFHAMMER, Fritz. (DOB: 28.11.14).
OSSWALD, Heinrich.
LILLIENSKIOLD, Peter von. (DOB: 12.03.15).
REINECKE, Walter. 01.08.39 Oblt., in KG 27.
Lt Imholz, - unknown.
DASER, Edmund. (DOB: 01.10.08 in Augsburg ).
KRIEGER, Walter.
RUPPERT, Franz Waldemar. (DOB: 06.09.11). - probably
KAHL, Konrad (“Conny”?). (DOB: 13.03.12 in Tschechen/Wischau/Mahren). - probably


In most cases the identity is probable or certain, but some of the last few are guesses.

We hope that this meets your needs,

steve sheridan 14th March 2011 10:26

Re: II/KG157 later II/KG27 Crew names.
 
Morning Chris/Doug, thank you very much for the names and information provided, this is most appreciated.
I have a few more names where im seeking the same info again if you could help.

II/KG157.

Lt Becker,
Lt Wildau,
Lt Segnitz,
Lt Stein and Lt Wolf serving in Spain, Wolf later Gruppe Adj.1.9.39!
Oblt Langner Chef 5 FBK.
Lt Bettermann II/KG27
Lt Von Meien,
Mjr Berg,
Lt Ellermeier,
Lt Miehlke.

Any help once again really appreciated.

Steve.

Doug Stankey 14th March 2011 15:53

Re: II/KG157 later II/KG27 Crew names.
 
Here are my best guesses based on what we have in our files:

BECKER, Gerhard. - guess
BECKER, Joachim. (DOB: 08.04.13). 21.05.41 Hptm., appt Staka 11./KG 76 (to 22.08.41). 20.02.43 Hptm., appt Kdr. II./Kampfbeobachterschule 2 (to 28.06.44). 01.09.43 promo to Maj.
BECKER, Karl. (DOB: 31.01.13 in Oberbeuren/Allgäu). - possibly

WILDAU, Otto-Heinrich. (DOB: 10.06.14).

SEGNITZ, Christian. - the only Segnitz we have.
"Lt. Stein" - could be anyone!

WOLF, Dr. Heinz (Heinrich). (DOB: 27.10.14).

LANGNER, Wolfgang. (DOB: 08.05.11).

BETTERMANN, Heinrich. - probably

MEIEN, Ulrich von. (DOB: 31.12.13).

BERG, Erich. - one possibility
BERG, Karl-Albert. (DOB: 26.02.04). -another possibility

ELLERMEIER, Kurt. (DOB: 04.08.03 in Stadtoldendorf).

MIEHLKE, Werner. (DOB: 10.06.15). - probably


We hope that these help.

HLdZ
DGS

steve sheridan 15th March 2011 11:26

Re: II/KG157 later II/KG27 Crew names.
 
Morning Doug, many thanks for the suggested names and info provided,
gives me a little more to work with!

Do you have anything further on Von Lillienskiold's subsequent career?

Best regs,
Steve.

Doug Stankey 15th March 2011 22:07

Re: II/KG157 later II/KG27 Crew names.
 
LILLIENSKIOLD, Peter von. (DOB: 12.03.15).
10.04.35 entered service with the Kriegsmarine.
06.09.35 trf to the Luftwaffe and enrolled in officer training.
1936 Lt., appt Techn. Offz. in II./KG 154.
01.10.36 trf to FFS Fürth for pilot training.
03.08.37 received the Lw. advanced flying certificate.
16.08.37 trf to II./KG 157 (later II./KG 27) as a pilot.
01.08.39 Oblt., in KG 27.
08.03.41 trf to Abt. Ia in Stab/IV. Fliegerkorps.
01.12.41 Generalstab training at the Luftkriegsakademie Berlin-Gatow (to 31.08.42).
01.09.42 trf to Ob.d.L./RLM pool and immediately ordered TDY to Stab/Luftflotte 5 as Ia op 1 and then later as Ic of the Luftflotten-Gefechtsstab (combat command post).
01.07.43 trf into the Generalstab d.Lw. and promo to Maj.
18.11.43 appt Ia op in Stab/Luftflotte 5.
01.01.44 in Stab/Luftflotte 5.
05.04.44 appt permanent Ic in Stab/Luftflotte 5.
30.09.44 appt Ic in Stab/Gen.d.Dt.Lw. in Norwegen.


HLdZ
DGS

steve sheridan 16th March 2011 10:25

Re: II/KG157 later II/KG27 Crew names.
 
Good morning Doug, thank you very much for providing the career details of Von Lillienskiold. I see he really had busy career from leaving KG27.

Kindest regs,
Steve.


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