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gilles collaveri 11th April 2011 10:49

stamps on an aircraft parts: does it come from a Junkers88 ?
 
Good morning all,

please find hereattached pictures of a hook I found with factory stamps on it.

I believe (but am not sure) it originates from a Junkers88: could these stamps ("MD234" and "CV") confirm (or dismiss) this idea ?

Thanks and cheers

Gilles

harrison987 11th April 2011 17:14

Re: stamps on an aircraft parts: does it come from a Junkers88 ?
 
mmmmmmmm...I would say German for sure, due to the inspection stamp...but no way to prove Ju88...

Did you find any other Ju88 parts?

gilles collaveri 11th April 2011 17:27

Re: stamps on an aircraft parts: does it come from a Junkers88 ?
 
Hi Harrison,

yes I did find other parts and you will see them on the pictures.

If it is German, it is definitely a Junkers88 since it is the only type of German aircraft that went down in this remote area,

BUT:

in the same area, in the 70's, a Mirage V crashed as well.

so, the question becomes :

do these parts come from a JU88 or a Mirage V ?

the airframe parts inclined me to go for JU88 but the small red condensator in the last picture is definitely more "Mirage like" . (it is much more recent)

maybe the two aircraft crashed on the same site ? (quite incredible..)

What do you think ?? Thanks for your opinion on this maze..

GC

Matti Salonen 16th April 2011 17:29

Re: stamps on an aircraft parts: does it come from a Junkers88 ?
 
Could MD in the inspection stamp be a short of Marcell Dassault?

Matti

stephen f. polyak 16th April 2011 18:23

Re: stamps on an aircraft parts: does it come from a Junkers88 ?
 
Mike,

Overall, I trust your judgement on things Luftwaffe, but that inspector's stamp doesn't register as WW2 German to me. Also don't like look of the part painted yellow with thin red line - something about those colors. And beware of anything showing pale blue - I believe a color similar to RLM 65/76 was used by the French Air Force on jets of that period. The square red cap with black text looks relatively modern too.

I am not ready to declare these parts - certainly not all - WW2 German.

Anything new to report Gilles?

Steve


Quote:

Originally Posted by harrison987 (Post 125871)
mmmmmmmm...I would say German for sure, due to the inspection stamp...but no way to prove Ju88...

Did you find any other Ju88 parts?


gilles collaveri 17th April 2011 19:00

Re: stamps on an aircraft parts: does it come from a Junkers88 ?
 
Indeed, these parts are very very likely to belong to a Mirage 5 that crashed at the same place. The red square part is a condensator that was clearly built in the 60's and not during WWII.

So, we can say (99 per cent) these are Mirage 5 parts, thus confirming Matti's idea that MD could mean "Marcel Dassault".

As a french man in TOCH forum, I should have had this idea: shame on me!

anyway, I shall go back on this site next May 8 and I bet I shall bring back more Mirage 5 parts;

and, if lucky, some JU88 parts too ?? I shall keep you posted.

Best regards

Gille


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