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Brian 4th May 2011 11:45

BIN LADEN
 
Hi guys

OK, completely 'off topic' but I would be interested in what others think and have to say on the subject of Bin Laden's death.

Obviously a man with very evil intentions (in the eyes of the West) and IMHO the world is a better place without him and his ilk.

However, admitted assassination of any person must have legal repercussions, hasn't it? Is it not a crime in international law? And now with the admission that Bin Laden was unarmed when shot dead, surely that constitutes a war crime?

Over to others for their opinions.

Brian

Pilot 4th May 2011 12:08

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Hard to believe that fact will come to light. For many he is just CIA agent who did good job in Afgan war against Soviets. He have too much money and influence to be shoot just like that. Image shown in public is just fake. Most stupid is the pubic note that he was drop in sea during burial ceremony as the tradition demand this. Tradition demand to be buried in soil warped in white fabric. But if he is in sea, nobody will be able to proof is he really or not. I know that officials declared that DNK analyze proof his identity but we have also expert who give 'proof analyze' of the dead people in village Racak, which caused attack on my country (so no way to trust in similar info again).

This is just intro in something but it is hardly to guess what...

Brian Bines 4th May 2011 13:36

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It would seem more logical to fake his death, then whisk him away to a quiet spot so any information, that might prevent future attacks, could be extracted. Killing him suggests he either had no extra information or what he had is not judged to be in the public interest. Taking him prisoner in public brings a whole range of problems, I expect this like the killing of JFK will long be discussed.

Nick Beale 5th May 2011 09:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Bines (Post 127147)
he either had no extra information or what he had is not judged to be in the public interest.

Who needs the man when you have his phones, laptops and memory sticks?

Pilot 5th May 2011 11:30

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Quote:

Who needs the man when you have his phones, laptops and memory sticks?
Correct!!!

David Ransome 5th May 2011 22:36

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There has been no admitted assassination, as in a deliberate preplanned killing. Knowledge of suicide bomber techniques meant that if he was clothed, possibly concealing a bomb, he was more likely to be shot and instantly 'disabled'. Any body, particularly arm, movements would increase the possibility of that shooting.

Nick Beale 7th May 2011 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Ransome (Post 127274)
Any body, particularly arm, movements would increase the possibility of that shooting.

Britain set a precedent with the Gibraltar killings: the IRA suspects raised their hands in the air when challenged. The SAS apparently interpreted this as a prelude to setting off a remote-controlled bomb and shot them anyway.

I'm not sure just how one might surrender to special forces — I rather suspect you can't.

JohnnyB 6th July 2011 00:03

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Hi Brian,

just a counter-question :

how many unarmed people were killed in the name of Bin Laden without being involved in a war ?

My opinion is :
Bin Laden did not deserve a public forum like a court to defend his islamo-terroristic ideologies and actions - he would have turned this court into his personal Mecca. No doubt - he wanted a war against the western world, so he got a war and he died in his war.

Regards - Rainer

Oberst 22nd July 2011 22:29

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The bottom line: The Arabs are not happy!
They're not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco...
They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon...
And where arethey happy?
They're happy in England...
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany...
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.
They’re happy in Canada
They’re happy in Australia
They're happy in every country that is not
Muslim.
And whom do they blame?
Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves
.
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN.

JohnnyB 22nd July 2011 23:23

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It is not ok to all be lumped together, Oberst...


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