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edwest 25th September 2005 21:19

Photos + 9-25-05
 
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Usual disclaimer,
Ed

Andy Mitchell 25th September 2005 22:49

Re: Photos + 9-25-05
 
Another interesting selection Ed - and I have'nt even finished looking yet!


The Hs 126 in http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6211126471 is probably from 9(H)./LG2 as is http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=6211132360 (see enhanced image of the emblems attached)

Graham Boak 26th September 2005 11:08

Re: Photos + 9-25-05
 
The Frankreich photos probably aren't - the first photo is a Koolhoven two seater (number escapes me) and the other is a Belgian Firefly (or Fox? Firefly I think.). Could be escapees, perhaps?

Dunno about Kim Novak and Tweetie pie....?

Modeldad 26th September 2005 14:38

Re: Photos + 9-25-05
 
Koolhoven 56. Most likely photgraphed in Belgium.

The Tweety Bird I believe is from the Canary Islands. Possibly used in the Spanish Nationalist A. F.

Larry Hickey 26th September 2005 15:23

Re: Photos + 9-25-05
 
I think the photos of the Hs 126s with the rampant griffon insignia are more probably from 4.(H)/Aufkl.Gr 21, rather than 9./LG 2.

Larry Hickey 26th September 2005 15:30

Re: Photos + 9-25-05
 
After investigating this further, I think that Steven may be right. The insignias for the two units are identical. These could well be aircraft of 9.(H)/LG 2, which is known to have flown the Hs 126.

Andy Mitchell 26th September 2005 23:03

Re: Photos + 9-25-05
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hickey
After investigating this further, I think that Steven may be right. The insignias for the two units are identical. These could well be aircraft of 9.(H)/LG 2, which is known to have flown the Hs 126.

Larry,

You may not be wrong in your original comment re 4.(H)/21 - Ries in Photo-"Collection Luftwaffe Embleme 1939-45" p37 has the following to say - "This staffel was known for the diversity of it's aircraft types, consisting at a time of several Hs 126s, one Bf 109 and two Fi 156s which all bore the Griffon emblem. For a time the staffel was designated 9.(H)/LG2, thus the code L2+.M" - this accompanied a photo of the forward fusalage of a Fi 156 clearly showing the Griffon emblem.

In Rosch p290 9.(H)/LG2 is indicated to have been formed in 1939 and disbanded in April 1942. 4.(H)/21 formed Jan 1939 and disbanded Jan 42 and the feldpost numbers for these units are different. Rosch shows, on P135, a different emblem on a Ju 88 attributed to 4.(H)/21!

On checking Holm there is an broad agreement with the data in Rosch and no duplication in the bases listed for these units.

Can anyone shed any light on why they both had the same emblem (if Rosch is in error) or has there been some confusion over the years?


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