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emil_e1 5th July 2011 20:43

Photos Me 109 - 05/07 on eBay
 
1. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item3cb99fea8b
2. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item3cb99ff12a
3. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item3cb99ff4f4
4. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item3cb99ffb43
5. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item3cb9a00219
6. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item3cb9a010aa
7. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item3cb9a01656
8. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Flugzeu...item3cb9a01c59
9. http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Flugzeug-ME-...item4aac83828e
10. http://cgi.ebay.de/Orig-Foto-Deut-Fl...item336935047f
11. http://cgi.ebay.de/Klasse-FOTO-KAMER...item2eb63a3c06
12. http://cgi.ebay.de/Klasse-FOTO-KAMER...item2eb63a3f8a
14. http://cgi.ebay.de/Klasse-FOTO-KAMER...item2eb63a40ae
15. http://cgi.ebay.de/Klasse-FOTO-KAMER...item2eb63a4148
16. http://cgi.ebay.de/Klasse-FOTO-KAMER...item2eb63a4241
17. http://cgi.ebay.de/orig-WK2-TECHNIK-...item2eb6462dbc
18. http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Me109-7-JG54...item2a1203a973
19. http://cgi.ebay.de/Flugzeug-Jager-ME...item23121a34ea
20. http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Flugzeug-Luf...item588ec2ea60
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rob van den nieuwendijk 6th July 2011 09:38

Re: Photos Me 109 - 05/07 on eBay
 
Hello all,

#4: Me 109 of 5./JG 3, "schwarze 6", Russia 1941.

Best regards,
Rob

Modeldad 6th July 2011 19:15

Re: Photos Me 109 - 05/07 on eBay
 
What is with #11? It has the small intake just behind the prop, but unlike a G, it is not on the cowling cover. In fact, it looks as if it was a field modification. An F with a field intake? And the camouflage is most interesting, broad segments of dark and light.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Klasse-FOTO-KAMER...item2eb63a3c06

Don Pearson 7th July 2011 00:39

Re: Photos Me 109 - 05/07 on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Modeldad (Post 130592)
What is with #11? It has the small intake just behind the prop, but unlike a G, it is not on the cowling cover. In fact, it looks as if it was a field modification. An F with a field intake? And the camouflage is most interesting, broad segments of dark and light.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Klasse-FOTO-KAMER...item2eb63a3c06

If I am not mistaken, the series is of Dobrich with JG 5. Likely an F-4/trop.

Don

ouidjat 7th July 2011 10:59

Re: Photos Me 109 - 05/07 on eBay
 
Hello,

#12 to 15 either ... Dobrich himself.
Tschuss, Franck.

John Beaman 7th July 2011 17:34

Re: Photos Me 109 - 05/07 on eBay
 
Not a production F-4 Trop as these had the G oil cooler. Likely a local mod. for whatever reason. It is an F-4 as indicated by the round wheel well. Note, also, the armored glass on the windscreen, usually a field mod.

Don Pearson 8th July 2011 02:01

Re: Photos Me 109 - 05/07 on eBay
 
Kjetil Aakra in his article on the colors of II./JG 5 pointed out that many of these aircraft were from block 10001-10290, the last of the Bf 109 F-4 aircraft before production of the G-series. The balance were believed to be from repair centers. Perhaps an explanation for the scoops to be found in one of these places? Or part of the modification from desert standard?

Don

Andreas Brekken 8th July 2011 10:08

Re: Photos Me 109 - 05/07 on eBay
 
Hi.

We have seen these on several aircraft of II./JG 5, most of them in the said WNr range.

A bit flatter than the production G-series scoops we believe they were introduced as a modification for the same reason as on the G, possibly at Pori, and thus a JG 5 specific modification.

They could of course turn up in other units later, by transfer of aircraft from JG 5 to for example training units.

Regards,
Andreas B

ouidjat 8th July 2011 18:18

Re: Photos Me 109 - 05/07 on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Pearson (Post 130604)
If I am not mistaken, the series is of Dobrich with JG 5. Likely an F-4/trop.
Don

Wrong Don,
But not only you, I've been too fast too.. :). In fact it's WNr.10073, a Bf109F-4/Trop flown by "Rudi" Muller as "Gelbe 3".
Effectively the camouflage doesn't match at all with Dobrich "Gelbe 10" but yes with Muller's one.
No Cat and no number yes but the camouflage matches perfectly; note the overpainted "X" close the wing camera fairing and the dark panel around underwing cross too.
Last, Muller's Gelbe 3 wore a spiral on spinner but some pictures (most of them in fact) show this spinner markings.

Tschuss, Franck.


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