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joost900 16th August 2011 20:15

USAAF Teletype codes Query
 
Hello,

My first post and I would like, first of all, to thank Moderators for accepting me on this forum.

I was reading some 8th AF teletype messages and noticed to/from adresses were in "code" all starting with OI thereafter 3 other letters.

Codes I have come across so far are :

OIAJX OIAWW OIBDY OIBMP OIBXD OIDEB OIHAK OIKHI OIKWG OIPNT OIRDN OISAS OISFW OISTP OISXW OITHE OIWOD OIWTH OIWTM

Could anyone explain me where these codes relate to or even what they were?

Regards
Joost de Raaf
Apeldoorn, The Netherlands

lampie 16th August 2011 22:29

Re: USAAF Teletype codes Query
 
I'm sure someone a lot more knowledgable than I will be able to give you a full list, but I would say that OIAJX would most likely be "AJAX", 8th Fighter Command based at Bushey Hall in Hertfordshire.

All the best,
Nige

joost900 16th August 2011 22:43

Re: USAAF Teletype codes Query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lampie (Post 132845)
I'm sure someone a lot more knowledgable than I will be able to give you a full list, but I would say that OIAJX would most likely be "AJAX", 8th Fighter Command based at Bushey Hall in Hertfordshire.

All the best,
Nige

Hello Nige,

Does makes sence, many thanks.
OIPNT could be "Pinetree" I asume?

Other thoughts I had for OIDEB = Debden? & OIBXD = Boxted?
But to be honoust that is just a wild guess..

Regards
Joost

joost900 23rd April 2012 20:38

Re: USAAF Teletype codes Query
 
Looking further into this, I have looked into some teletype messages from 8th AF Fighter wing to their Bases. Came up with following (possibilities)

OIAJX Ajax
OIAWW
OIBDY Bodney
OIBMP
OIBXD Boxted
OIDEB Debden
OIDUX Duxford
OIFER Fowlmere
OIHAK
OIHON Honnington
OIKHI
OIKNG Kings Cliff
OIKWG
OILES Leiston
OIMTS Martlesham Heath
OIPNT Pinetree
OIRDN Raydon
OISAS Sawston Hall
OISFW Saffron Walden
OISTP
OISXW
OITHE
OIWOD Wormingford
OIWRE East Wretham
OIWTH Walcot Hall
OIWTM

Still looking further

drgondog 26th April 2012 14:24

Re: USAAF Teletype codes Query
 
By the examples OISTP is probably Steeple Morden,OIHAK is probably Hardwick, but makes you wonder regarding omission of Bassingbourn, Thorps Abbot, Thurleigh, etc

joost900 26th April 2012 21:19

Re: USAAF Teletype codes Query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drgondog (Post 146808)
By the examples OISTP is probably Steeple Morden,OIHAK is probably Hardwick, but makes you wonder regarding omission of Bassingbourn, Thorps Abbot, Thurleigh, etc

To be honoust, all of these abbreviations were on VIII FC document regarding 24th Dec 1944 Mission, hence most of them are VIII FC related.

On several prints, message was adressed from Pinetree to all Bomb Divsions HQ and Fighterwings and always is same order :

OIBMP OIKHI OITHE OISFW OISAS OIWTH
As last three are (in My opinion) 65FW, 66 FW & 67FW in order, it seems likely that OIMBMP = Brampton Grange 1BW HQ , but then I struggle a bit with 2BW & 3BW.
OIKHI might be Ketteringham Hall 2BW HQ.
OITHE is a mystery, if theory is right this could be 3BW HQ at Elveden Hall but abbreviation does not closely resemble to this.. Only thing I can think of is town nearby : Thetford

OISTP, do agree with Steeple Morden..
Think OIWTM could very well be Wattisham
As for OIHAK, hope you don't mind I'll put a ? with Hardwick.. Only reason for this as I believe this airfield did not had a FG based in Dec1944. Closest I can come up with is Halesworth, but problem with this is letter K not present.

Do want to thank you for the suggestions made, really appreciate it.

Regards
Joost

udf_00 27th April 2012 14:05

Re: USAAF Teletype codes Query
 
Page 25 of http://www.amazon.com/Combat-Profile.../dp/0711018073
Fac-simile of the mission summary report of the 361st FG for the 26/11/44 made by a Maj Ellis
"
FROM: OIHAK

TO : OISFW
OIPNT (ATT DIR OF INT DUTY OFCR)
IAH (ATT DIO AEAF BATTLE ROOM)
OIKHI
OIAWW
"
etc..
Caption says "Group Mission Summary Report, copies of which were sent to Wing, 8th Air Force, AEAF Headquerters, Division and US Strategic Air Forces.

361st was at Little Walden.
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Little_Walden
"Little Walden Park and the adjoining farms was selected for a RAF Bomber Command airfield in the summer of 1942 and was originally called Hadstock".

joost900 28th April 2012 18:20

Re: USAAF Teletype codes Query
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by udf_00 (Post 146873)
Page 25 of http://www.amazon.com/Combat-Profile.../dp/0711018073
Fac-simile of the mission summary report of the 361st FG for the 26/11/44 made by a Maj Ellis
"
FROM: OIHAK

TO : OISFW
OIPNT (ATT DIR OF INT DUTY OFCR)
IAH (ATT DIO AEAF BATTLE ROOM)
OIKHI
OIAWW
"
etc..
Caption says "Group Mission Summary Report, copies of which were sent to Wing, 8th Air Force, AEAF Headquerters, Division and US Strategic Air Forces.

361st was at Little Walden.
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Little_Walden
"Little Walden Park and the adjoining farms was selected for a RAF Bomber Command airfield in the summer of 1942 and was originally called Hadstock".

Very Interesting! Many thanks.
Looking further, I asume IAH = AEAF HQ ; OIAWW = US Strategic Air Forces (HQ?)

Grtz

drgondog 30th April 2012 16:17

Re: USAAF Teletype codes Query
 
At that time of the war each of the Fighter Wings was assigned to a specific Air Division, formerly Bomb Division. I.E 65th was assigned to 2nd AD and comprised of 4th 56th, 361st, 355th and 479th FG (as you knew). So, Debden, Boxted, Fowlmere, Steeple Morden and Wattisham respectively


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