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Pilot 11th September 2011 16:46

Swiss Bf109E
 
Greetings all,

I am curious to find more info about some details on Swiss Bf109E, which look to me like a bit different then on others machine I have seen. Hope there is better informed person which could provide more info about the pointed details on images bellow.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Warplane/01-6.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Warplane/02-5.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Warplane/03-3.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Warplane/04-2.jpg

Thank you very much for attention :)

Revi16 12th September 2011 14:27

Re: Swiss Bf109E
 
I believe J-355 still exists.
http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...egsearch=J-355

http://www.google.com/search?q=swiss...og&sa=N&tab=wi

Pilot 12th September 2011 14:51

Re: Swiss Bf109E
 
Great info Revi!! So it proof what I have seen on this archive image, some conversion were made.

Thank you for attention :)

ChrisDNT 13th September 2011 08:35

Re: Swiss Bf109E
 
Pilot, have you a picture of the whole airplane, perhaps a view on the surroundings could help in finding some explanations about your question ?

udf_00 13th September 2011 09:59

Re: Swiss Bf109E
 
Explanation of the bumps :
http://www.messerschmitt109.com/suisse/index2.htm
next to last paragraph

Pilot 13th September 2011 14:20

Re: Swiss Bf109E
 
ChrisDNT- yes, I have image of whole plane, as well high resolution scan of the same. Will try to post resized sample later.

udf 00- will try to translate later this text, thank you very much.

Cheers :)

Pilot 13th September 2011 16:58

Re: Swiss Bf109E
 
Here you are image:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35...5-Swiss-AF.jpg

klemchen 13th September 2011 18:27

Re: Swiss Bf109E
 
Hello,

as far as I know, the Swiss Me 109 Es were equipped with Swiss machine guns above the engine (instead of German MG 17s like the Luftwaffe Es). This would explain the differences in looks.
There is a Swiss book on the Me 109 in Swiss service, which I have but could not find at the moment, so I cannot give you more details right now.

Regards,
klemchen

ChrisDNT 13th September 2011 21:59

Re: Swiss Bf109E
 
Ah, this is the well known photo of the J-355 at Dübendorf, when preserved there, before the museum was established. Frankly, I never noticed these differences, I will ask around.

Peter D Evans 13th September 2011 22:42

Re: Swiss Bf109E
 
The Swiss Bf109E was fitted with Swiss made 7.45mm Fl MG29 weapon and as these had a bore distance of 300mm compared to 340mm on the MG17 and this required the gun channelling and cowling to be adjusted. Also, the MG29 was installed in parallel whilst the Rheinmetall 7.92mm MG17 in the Luftwaffe's Bf109E's were offset.

[Source: "Messerschmitt Me109 in Swiss Air Force Service" by G.Hoch, Schiffer, 2008]

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator


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