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gilles collaveri 16th September 2011 11:28

GERMAN FIGHTER HEADREST: Me109 or FW190 ?
 
A friend of mine found this headrest, from a German crash site: I would bet on Me109E, but would any expert confirm ?

(height: 33 cm)

thanks a lot

GC

Andy Saunders 16th September 2011 13:53

Re: GERMAN FIGHTER HEADREST: Me109 or FW190 ?
 
Me109-E

gilles collaveri 16th September 2011 14:19

Re: GERMAN FIGHTER HEADREST: Me109 or FW190 ?
 
Thanks Andy.

Gilles

gilles collaveri 19th September 2011 11:09

Re: GERMAN FIGHTER HEADREST: Me109 or FW190 ?
 
the upper part, now: the headrest is complete.

best regards to all;

GC

gilles collaveri 20th September 2011 14:21

it was on 16 May 1943 (a Me109): which pilot was on board ?
 
Hello to you all,

The Me109 to which the headrest come from crashed on 16 May 1943.

Would somebody be so kind to provide me with the name of the pilot ? (and any related information)

Thanks in advance.

GC

Charles Bavarois 20th September 2011 16:21

Re: GERMAN FIGHTER HEADREST: Me109 or FW190 ?
 
Hello GC,

possible candidates:

Ofhr Hermann Weiser, wia, emergency landing after engine failure at Les Sables,
4/JGr. Ost,
Bf 109 F 2 , WNr. 7153, "white 12"

Uffz Erich Viehmann, kia, crashed due to altitude sickness, Ossun,
1/EGr. West,
Bf 109 F4, WNr. 12904

Uffz Hans Forschauer, wia, emergency landing, Mimizan,
4/EGr. West,
Bf 109 F2, WNr. 9634

Greetings

Carl

gilles collaveri 20th September 2011 16:33

Re: GERMAN FIGHTER HEADREST: Me109 or FW190 ?
 
Thank you Carl,

most likely the second one (Erich Viehmann) , since Ossun is in the area (and not Les Sables nor Mimizan).

Thanks a lot again;

GC

PS: "wia" means "wounded in action" ?

klemchen 20th September 2011 19:17

Re: GERMAN FIGHTER HEADREST: Me109 or FW190 ?
 
Hi,

as far as I know, this type of head armor was introduced as an additional equipment during the production of the Me 109 E-3 and retained until mid production of the Me 109 G-6 (when it was succeded by the so-called Galland-Panzer, which comprised a large panel of armor glass).

Regards,
klemchen

Charles Bavarois 20th September 2011 19:37

Re: GERMAN FIGHTER HEADREST: Me109 or FW190 ?
 
Gilles,

I now have access to the NVM for Viehmann.
The location is "12 Km NW of Ossun", time is 11:1o hrs.
Cause is "Presumed crashed due to altitude-sickness. Aircraft burst near ground. Pilot thrown out of a/c, immediately dead".

And: Yes "WIA" is "wounded in action". I know, that this should be "WIFA" -"wounded in flying accident", but I do not make any difference in my database.

Greetings

Carl

gilles collaveri 20th September 2011 21:53

Re: GERMAN FIGHTER HEADREST: Me109 or FW190 ?
 
Thanks Carl,

it is matching perfectly:

- 12 KM NW of Ossun is the crash place.

- A witness mentionned that the pilot was killed and was out of the aircraft.

Thanks also Klemchen for your precision on the armour type;

Best regards to both of you and to all readers.

GC


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