Bf 109G-10 130xxx Batch
 

Does anybody have a photo of these elusive machines? I believe its a Mtt-Reg build G-10. Just trying to determine the factory camouflage scheme. As always, thanks.

Bf 109 G-10 130 xxx Batch
 

Hello Oberst

One of the fighters of the 130 werknummer batch that comes to mind as being photographically well documented is Bf 109 G-10 "Yellow 5" (W.Nr. 130 297) flown by recently deceased Oberfeldwebel Horst Petzschler (26 victories, EP) of 10./JG 51 to Sweden on 4 May 1945. There are several excellent photographs of this machine at http://www.forcedlandingcollection.s...136-Bf109.html. My information is that this werknummer block was built at Messerschmitt Regensburg as well. I hope this helps.

Horrido!

Leo

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I am such a fool, I forgot all about Herr Petzschler's W.Nr. 130 297. I assume this would be a typical camouflage scheme for Mtt-Reg machines in that batch. Thanks for information!

Re: Bf 109G-10 130xxx Batch
 

Thanks Leo for your excellent link!

Oberst, here are those I know of_

Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 130 282 "Weisse 21", Hptm. Franz Wienhusen, Stab IV./JG 4, Rhein/Main, before 3 December 1944. Mombeek 2001, p. 54.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625342670036

Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 130 396, "Weisse 43", 1./NJG11, Fassberg, May 1945:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625342670036
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625342670036

Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 130 327 "Blaue 4", Oblt. Günther Grossjohann, Staka 8./JG 3, Garz, March 1945. Prien and Stemmer 1996, p. 390.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625342670036

Cheers
Marc

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Hello Marc,

Thanks for those links! "Blaue 4" is a very good picture, the camouflage scheme is almost identical to W.Nr.130 297. "Weisse 43" is the High Altitude scheme, nice machine. I fairly certain "Weisse 21" is not an Mtt-Reg built machine.. although I could be wrong. Thanks again!

Re: Bf 109G-10 130xxx Batch
 

Were WNr 130xxx series a/c built in any other factory?

Re: Bf 109G-10 130xxx Batch
 

according to Prein:

130000 – 130500 ~ Mtt-Regensburg G-10
150700 – 151000 ~ Erla G-10
151500 – 152000 ~ Erla G-10
490000 – 490800 ~ Erla G-10 - many were fitted with DB 605/AS
491000 – 491600 ~ Erla G-10
610300 – 610600 ~ WNF G-10
610900 – 611000 ~ WNF G-10
611900 – 612000 ~ WNF G-10
612700 – 613000 ~ WNF G-10
613000 – 613300 ~ WNF G-10
770000 – 770400 ~ WNF G-10
770900 – 771000 ~ WNF G-10
771000 – 771200 ~ WNF G-10

'Weisse 21' looks to be a Erla built machine. maybe W.Nr. 150 782?

Bf 109 G-10 130 xxx Batch
 

Hi guys

Perhaps I should mention that Claes Sundin has included a profile of Bf 109 G-10 "White 21" (W.Nr. 130 282) on page 97 of Luftwaffe Fighter Aircraft in Profile. I realize that color profiles are often quite subjective but Sundin along with Tullis is the highest regarded artist involved in this subject. I agree that the camouflage is quite different from the machine flown by Petzschler but we have no way of knowing if either or both of these had their factory delivered finish over-painted by the unit they were delivered to at some point. If it is true that Bf 109 G-10 "Blue 4" (W.Nr. 130 327) is very similar to the JG 51 aircraft then perhaps the JG 4 machine was repainted at some point.

Horrido!

Leo

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Hello Leo,

Excellent point! The JG 4 machine could have very well been rebuilt/repainted at one of the various reman-depots. I was looking at a Mtt-Reg G-10 from (?)./JG 27 ( source: internet ) that also has a very simular scheme to W.Nr. 130 327 & 130 297. This one was W.Nr. 130 355 I believe. I'm trying to determine the most likely scheme for Heinrich Bartels W.Nr. 130 359.

Bf 109 G-10 130 xxx Batch
 

Hello Oberst

I was looking up about the Bf 109 G-10 in The Messerschmitt Bf 109 Part 2 by Lynn Ritger and here are several notes that you may find interesting in case that you are unaware of them. The Bf 109 G-10 was an attempt to produce a fighter with performance approaching that of the Bf 109 K-4 by attaching the DB 605 D to existing Bf 109 G-series airframes awaiting re-manufacture at repair centers. However, at least one batch of these aircraft were new builds by WNF at Diana. The fighters built by Messerschmitt at Regensburg can be identified by having the streamlined cowling bulge terminating nearly in line with the windscreen aft edge. They were fitted with standard size 660x160 millimeter main wheels and thus small wing bulges and usually the extended tail wheel oleo as well. I hope that you find this useful.

Horrido!

Leo