Information Concerning the Loss of Alfred Felix - 6th July 1942 over El Alamein
 

Hi,

Can anyone provide unit information and information about the air battle in which Alfred Felix was lost. He was a fighter pilot killed over El Alamein in July 1942

Thanks

Rick

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Re: Information Concerning the Loss of Alfred Felix - 6th July 1942 over El Alamein
 

Rick,

This is the info from VolksGrabensuche:
Alfred Felix ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in El Alamein.
Endgrablage: Gruft 7
Nähere Informationen zu diesem Friedhof erhalten Sie hier.
Nachname:
Felix

Vorname:
Alfred

Dienstgrad:
Unteroffizier

Geburtsdatum:
18.10.1920

Todes-/Vermisstendatum:
06.07.1942

Ok, I found his unit. He was a member of I/NJG-2 . The crew was Lt. Georg Wiedow, Uffz. Karl Danziger and Uffz Alfred Felix.
All the book notes (Ferne Nachtjagd-Mohlenbeck,pg 185) is that Lt Wiedow did not return from a mission over Egyptian soil.

Re: Information Concerning the Loss of Alfred Felix - 6th July 1942 over El Alamein
 

The aircraft was Ju 88C-6, 360191, R4+DK and reason for the loss "Absturz infolge Nachtjägerbeschuß". He was not a pilot, but "Bordschütze".

Matti

Re: Information Concerning the Loss of Alfred Felix - 6th July 1942 over El Alamein
 

Hi,

What does "Absturz infolge Nachtjägerbeschuß" mean?

If it is something like night school training I am a little confused because his sterbebild gives him awards on the Iron Cross First Class and the Bronze flying badge. He can't have been inexperienced. Any ideas?

Rick

Re: Information Concerning the Loss of Alfred Felix - 6th July 1942 over El Alamein
 

"Absturz infolge Nachtjägerbeschuß" = crashed as a result of being hit by a nightfighter. He was a gunner, not the pilot.

GRM

Re: Information Concerning the Loss of Alfred Felix - 6th July 1942 over El Alamein
 

I./NJG 2 Lt.Georg crew Kastelli/Kreta 42

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Re: Information Concerning the Loss of Alfred Felix - 6th July 1942 over El Alamein
 

Rick

I take it you don't have MAW Vol 2?

According to Shores et al Luftwaffe lost three aircraft that night (6/7.7.42) one of them being the Ju 88 C as per Matti's answer, the other two being He 111 H.
The problem is that British nightfighters (Beaufighters from 46 Sq) only claimed two victories and it seems Allied Flak did not claim anything either.

So unless one German loss is recorded on the wrong date the conclusion has to be that one aircraft was lost to other causes. What that cause was is anyone's guess I suppose.

I./NJG 2 primary job at night during this time was to intercept 205 Groups Wellingtons making more or less nuisance raids at night against various German/Italian strongpoints while the British Beaus did the same thing against the German raiders.

One long shot might be that some gunner was extremely lucky that night and managed to score, without perhaps even realising his skill, and the crew never bothered to make any report of it. But as I said this is perhaps very speculative...

B Rgds
Stig

Re: Information Concerning the Loss of Alfred Felix - 6th July 1942 over El Alamein
 

This is what I find in Heinz Rökker's Chronik of I./NJG 2:

Shot down after combat with a Beaufighter over the front in Egypt.
Lt. Wiedow is buried in El Alemein, Gruft 2, Uffz. Danzinger (bf) and Uffz. Felix in Gruft 7.
Lt.Wiedow was holder of a EK.I and recorded 4 victories:

1. Beaufighter south-east of Malta, 17:45 hrs.,as a member of the Stab. 23/1/42
2. Blenheim north-east of Derna, 13:30 hrs., as a member of the Stab. 14/6/42
3. Wellington, 01:28 hrs., as a member of the Stab. 05/07/42
4. Wellington, 03:20 hrs., as a member of the Stab. 05/07/42

Hptm. Heinz Rökker was a long time member of I./NJG 2 recording 64 victories. The last one on 15/03/45 a Mosquito in the area of the airfield of St.Truiden (St.Trond) Belgium.
There is a foto of Lt.Wiedow in the book, the caption mentioning him as Adj. - I./NJG 2.
Hope this will help.
Kind regards,

Dirk

Re: Information Concerning the Loss of Alfred Felix - 6th July 1942 over El Alamein
 

On the first one, did that happen while I./NJG2 was flying shotgun for the T.18 convoy?

All the best

Andreas