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ouidjat 20th October 2011 10:46

Bf109 on eBay - 20/10.
 
Hi guys,

... Hmmm Just for today; I thought that JG 26 batch did deserve to be put in line.

1.http://www.ebay.de/itm/U5-abgeschossenes-Flugzeug-ME-109-Kennung-/260876427095?pt=Militaria&hash=item3cbd725f57
2.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-6-JG-26-W-Schneider-/380378556455?pt=Militaria&hash=item5890542827
3.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Juni-1940-/380378556490?pt=Militaria&hash=item589054284a
4.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Juni-1940-/380378556507?pt=Militaria&hash=item589054285b
5.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Juni-1940-/380378556547?pt=Militaria&hash=item5890542883
6.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Juni-1940-/380378556599?pt=Militaria&hash=item58905428b7
7.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Juni-1940-/380378556627?pt=Militaria&hash=item58905428d3
8.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Juni-1940-/380378556666?pt=Militaria&hash=item58905428fa
9.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Juni-1940-/380378556724?pt=Militaria&hash=item5890542934
10.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Juni-1940-/380378556753?pt=Militaria&hash=item5890542951
11.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Juni-1940-/380378556781?pt=Militaria&hash=item589054296d
12.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Sommer-1940-/380378557102?pt=Militaria&hash=item5890542aae
13.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Sommer-1940-/380378557197?pt=Militaria&hash=item5890542b0d
14.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Me-109-E-6-JG-26-Wappen-1940-/380378557255?pt=Militaria&hash=item5890542b47
15.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-notgel-Jagd-Flugzeug-Me-109-Kennung-VI-2-WK-/230679555990?pt=Militaria&hash=item35b592af96
16.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-notgel-Jagd-Flugzeug-Me-109-Kennung-11-2-WK-/230679555717?pt=Militaria&hash=item35b592ae85
17.http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Flugzeug-Me-109-III-JG-Jagdgeschwader-52-/230689053721?pt=Militaria&hash=item35b6239c19

I have some little comments but no time to write them... Just look at Prien's JFV Teil 3 (West Feldzug) Starting from P.210!

Tschüss, Franck.

ouidjat 20th October 2011 15:37

Re: Bf109 on eBay - 20/10.
 
Hi,

... and JFV, Teil 4-I of course!

#17 there is another picture of that plane in Falcon's site but it's private; hence no access! You can get it in Luftwaffe Im Focus N°6.
So it's a Bf109F-4 definitly; "Gelbe 10" of 9./JG 52. See (for who is able to do it) the overpainted StKz first letter - an M or N - just in front of the "1" and the dark camouflage spot just behind the emblem.
Pilot was said to be Lt. Friedrich Brückmann (doesn't mean He's on the present picture) and since there is a date - February 1942 - we can assume that this picture and the LIF N°6 one where taken either in Charkow or Tarangog.

Hope it helps. Franck.

ouidjat 20th October 2011 15:54

Re: Bf109 on eBay - 20/10.
 
...

#16:
You can have an access for this one here: http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=5439 Thanks David!
So we got a second one today.

Comments:
1/ The octane triangle is blurry but the second sign is broad enough to be a "3". More, there is a huge riveted reinforcement band on karmann wing link: A Bf109F-1.
2/ On the present picture the yellow cowling and the fuselage band are very clear comparing with the octane triangle yellow. Whatever, the camouflage painting on top cowling seems to be a constant on JG 51 Bf109F. No Unit emblem - which is not rare, if not common. And a Name writen on cowling.
3/ The picture in Falcon's site let us see a gun-camera. It's not a stain on film.

Last, at least, most probably the picture(s) has been taken during winter 1941-1942... Or it was a fierce survivor! Why not???

Tschüss, Franck.

ouidjat 21st October 2011 10:19

Re: Bf109 on eBay - 20/10.
 
And #15:

No it's not VI+.. as written by the seller.
Letters are situated well back from the cross and there is a wheel fairing on top of the wing ... Exit G-2.
Better VP+?? or VN+?? (Try B, D, E etc...) the second letter being partialy overpainted. I think we are facing a Bf109G-6(R6) in the batches 410xxx or 411xxx
As for the unit, I have no clue; Spinner may be one but I've no idea!

Cheers, Franck.

ouidjat 22nd October 2011 09:46

Re: Bf109 on eBay - 20/10.
 
Hi Guys,

Yesterday, in my last post, I wrote something so stupid and wrong that I wonder why no one did dare to put a comment ... Of course; you know every thing on every subject; no time to loose.. ;).

Nevertheless...
The big antenna mast doesn't point to a G-6 in the 410xxx or 411xxx batch. :o
So, I did take time to look better and I did find the following picture. I'm not pretending it's the very same plane because the first two letters of the StKz don't appear on the said picture. But the top blade bending aspect and the spinner match pretty well.
Effectively, instead of VP+?? we can have a VN+??, i.e. a Bf109G-4. More, the seller did point for a JG 3 or a JG 52 machine.

I think I can't do more and better.

Tschüss, Franck.


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