Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/index.php)
-   Allied and Soviet Air Forces (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=7)
-   -   Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944 (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=27817)

hanshauprich 13th December 2011 10:21

Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
 
15. Nov. 1944
18.45h
KU-3327
C-47 348328

Location: Steinfurt/Neustettin-Germany

The plane is not listed in my book with the MACR-Nummers by Day etc. Britisch oder even an Russian?

Thanks for help.

H.

Alex Smart 13th December 2011 11:30

Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
 
Hello,
Serial number
43-48328, would have appeared on the a/c's tail unit as "348328".
So is correct.
Possible use by RAF maybe, but KJ804 was 43-48327 and KJ806 was 43-48329 while KJ805 is recorded as a "Wasted Serial" in AB (The British Air Commission & Lend-Lease).
Yet KJ805 is recorded in AB (KA100-KZ999) as "Diverted to Russia".
So possible applied with RAF markings over painted with Russian markings.
I have no idea, but the other numbers quoted in the KU report might be numbers applied by the Russians ?
Hope this helps.
Alex

hanshauprich 13th December 2011 18:45

Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
 
Hello,
thank you, this help a little bit! Did you know, that the russians ever fitted an original C-47 with that Gunturret like their Li 2?

I have an loos of an C-47 - Li 2 near Aachen in late 1944 (with German Markings) but no idea if US or ex-VVS.

Bests,
Hans

Leendert 15th December 2011 13:18

Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
 
Hans,

Neustettin is present day Szczecinek in Poland?
On the other hand, the only Steinfurt I could find is NW of Münster, Germany, unless there is a Polish town with an equally Polish name for Steinfurt now too.

Regards,

Leendert

Laurent Rizzotti 15th December 2011 14:46

Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
 
There was in 1944 a placed called Steinforth or Steinfurth near Neustettin, renamed Brodźce in Polish and that is no more existing according to wikipedia.

kaki3152 15th December 2011 17:44

Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
 
I noticed that a C-47B, 312th Ferry Squadron, S/n 43-48478 was reported missing on November 13,1944. Its mission was from Watten,UK to Airstrip A-62 in France.
I think it's just possible that the serial number listed on the KU report is incorrect.
The crew was listed as KIA on the MACR report.

Atcham Tower 15th December 2011 21:22

Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
 
The Air-Britain DC-3 book says 43-48328 was delivered 11 Aug 44 and allocated KJ805 but not taken up by the RAF. Reverted to USAAF then transferred to Russia 22 Aug 44.

Alex Smart 16th December 2011 03:29

Re: Msytery C-47 15. Nov. 1944
 
Hello,
Thanks for the confirmation and date "to Russia".
Tony Woods file gives date of a DC-3 as 16th Nov 44, Fw. Pilz.Place- Stadtrand Szegedin.
Interestingly on the 20th Nov one is listed as an Li-2, so perhaps the difference was known.

Alex


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 15:19.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net