Loss of Bf110 +FZ WNr.931?
 

At eBay here there is a crashed Bf110 with what appears to be a __+FZ code and WNr.931...Are there any other details known about this?

Ian

Re: Loss of Bf110 +EZ WNr.931?
 

Ian,

Its a Bf110B with probably a SKZ factory code. Definitely NOT Polish Campaign. Could be a training unit. No other info at present.

Regards,

Re: Loss of Bf110 +EZ WNr.931?
 

Thanks Larry

Ian

Re: Loss of Bf110 +EZ WNr.931?
 

As I posted over on the LEMB, I have this as a Bf110B-1, WNr.931 coded NA+FZ possibly of Zerstörerschule, Zerstörerschule 2 or Nachtjagdschule 1

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

Re: Loss of Bf110 +EZ WNr.931?
 

The losses I have for WNr. 931. Also WNr. 935 with SKZ 'NA+FY'.

Bf 110B-1, 931, n.n., , , , Nachtjagdsch. 1, , , , , 12-Dec-41, Pilot error., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/771, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.176; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/782, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.43; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.46, , Fl.Pl. Schleißheim, 25%, H, , ,
Bf 110B-1, 931, n.n., , , , Zerst.Sch. 2, , , , , 21-Feb-43, Bauchlandung due to engine fire., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Deutschland, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/774, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.164; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/783, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.376, , Bermaringen, 25%, H, , ,

Bf 110B-1, 935, n.n., , I., I., Zerst.Vorsch. 1, , 1, NA+FY, , , Photo from Dec-40., , Deutschland, Carlsen/Meyer, Die Flugzeugführer Ausbilung der Deutschen LW 35-45, II, p.231 photo, , Fl.Pl. Schleißheim, -, H, , ,

Re: Loss of Bf110 +EZ WNr.931?
 

Many thanks indeed Jim... I've taken the liberty to add the details for WNr.931 to the LEMB thread :)

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

Re: Loss of Bf110 +FZ WNr.931?
 

No problem Peter. The 25 cent question, I guess, is the photo one of the reported losses? If so, which one? I remember a comment by Peter Rodeike (I think) from the, sadly defunct, 'LW Verbande' to the effect about the number of Schulen crack-up photos that don't appear to have a corresponding entry in that set of loss reports. I guess that bit of detective work is left to us.

Re: Loss of Bf110 +FZ WNr.931?
 

Re: Loss of Bf110 +FZ WNr.931?
 

Dear all,

Jim has already provided the info that was in my database too, but the hills at the near horizon can most likely not be linked with the location 'Bermaringen' nor 'Schleissheim' so the picture might refer to another incident which could have been recorded under a wrong Werkenummer.

That's no suggestion on my part, just a possible option arisen with other clerical errors found in the last 20 years... ;)

All the best, Marcel / Venlo

Re: Loss of Bf110 +FZ WNr.931?
 

Pretty strange these accidents with the same Bf110, to add that the Bf110, was not an easy plane to forcedlanded...

Remi