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edwest 7th January 2012 01:11

Strange emblem
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27862259@N02/6322239151/



Ed

ianatheling 7th January 2012 02:53

Re: Strange emblem
 
Have not looked through my own photos yet, but it is in Ketley and Rolfe #683. It is however noted as unknown and found on a Ju88D

Ian

edwest 7th January 2012 04:48

Re: Strange emblem
 
Thank you, Ian. I had missed the Ketley and Rolfe entry.




Ed

Nordpol54 7th January 2012 15:11

Re: Strange emblem
 
In an old booklet from Squadron/Signal/Podzun Pallas booklet of 1975 this picture was published with the caption (hopefully i somehow correct translate it from German to English): "Even it is unsure, one presumes that this badge shows a stylized emblem of KG 30..."
By crosschecking Ketley and Rolfe as well, i would assume that this emblem merely shows the stylized eagle emblem of KG 53, because the outlook of the bird's head comes more closer to that.
Anyone for a topspin return? :)

Greets
Norbert

ianatheling 7th January 2012 18:41

Re: Strange emblem
 
The eagle is such a common element of Luftwaffe emblems that I see no particularly good reason to attribute it to KG30. It could be KG30 or 53, but could be a version of a number of different emblems or most likely an emblem of a unit not as yet determined. If indeed this is a Ju88D, then it is most likely to be a Aufkl.Gr. unit


Ian

Andy Mitchell 7th January 2012 21:14

Re: Strange emblem
 
If you compare the photo in the link to that in Squadron Signal No 1016 page 39 you will see that the Squadron Signal photo is a crop of the same shot albiet not as clear.

Recceswind 8th January 2012 10:39

Re: Strange emblem
 
It looks like a stylized emblem of FFS A/B 24...

Stig Jarlevik 8th January 2012 20:06

Re: Strange emblem
 
Strangely enough, the emblem reminds me more of a fake unit, such as those fantasy ones used by the "He 113".

Are any fake Luftwaffe bomber units known as well from that period?

Cheers
Stig

edNorth 8th January 2012 20:50

Re: Strange emblem
 
No clue here regarding unit. Version is "Recce", but not a proper "D", rather A-1/F or A-5/F (Recce). Officially Ju88s with cameras in rear bomb bay (windows for these are visible on this photo) were not such. The D-2 and D-1 are stated for them carrying cameras AFT of the rear bay. However (many) A-1 F and A-5 F are stated D-2s in GQM losses, werether that is correct or not. Possibly Schule or Ausbildung-Staffel ??

udf_00 9th January 2012 20:42

Re: Strange emblem
 
Inventory:Bild 101 I - Propagandakompanien der Wehrmacht - Heer und Luftwaffe
Signature:Bild 101I-402-0270-05A
Archive title:Englische Kanalinseln.- Flugzeug Junkers Ju 88 (Abzeichen: stilisierter Adler in Kreis) auf Feldflugplatz; KBK Lw 5
Dating:1940
Photographer:Bachor
Origin:Bundesarchiv


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