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Larry Hickey 31st January 2012 07:50

Meaning of German word "Buffard" seen on the nose of a 1./KG77 Ju88A
 
Hello,

What does the word "Buffard" mean? It doesn't process on my German translator. Is it a proper name, place name, nickname for a girlfriend, etc?

This was painting on the nose of a Ju88A from KG77.

Thanx,

ju55dk 31st January 2012 07:58

Re: Meaning of German word "Buffard" seen on the nose of a 1./KG77 Ju88A
 
Hi Larry.

Are you sure that it's not Bussard instead?

Junker

Andreas Brekken 31st January 2012 07:59

Re: Meaning of German word "Buffard" seen on the nose of a 1./KG77 Ju88A
 
Hi, Larry

My immediate thought is that the word really is 'Bussard' and not 'Buffard'. the s being misread for an f.

(The same gothic typestyle as used for example for the Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten:

http://www.aftenposten.no/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftenposten

The meaning being Eagle or even Bird of Prey

Regards,
Andreas B

Andreas Brekken 31st January 2012 08:00

Re: Meaning of German word "Buffard" seen on the nose of a 1./KG77 Ju88A
 
Godammit, Jørn!! Beat me to it by seconds :-)

Larry Hickey 31st January 2012 08:23

Re: Meaning of German word "Buffard" seen on the nose of a 1./KG77 Ju88A
 
Hello,

Of course, it must be "Bussard," with would be Buzzard in English. While we're at it, I believe that I./KG77 Ju88s in 1940, and probably later, put a nickname on the nose of each plane with a word that began with the first letter of the a/c code, a practice seen in other Luft bomber units. Since this carries a I./KG77 version of the unit shield, and a white quarter segment to the front of the prop spinner, this would likely be 3Z+BH. Does anyone know of any other photos of this a/c showing the full code? Can the subtype and theater be identified, as well as approx date of the photo?

Your further info and opinions are appreciated.

Regards,

ChrisS 31st January 2012 14:02

Re: Meaning of German word "Buffard" seen on the nose of a 1./KG77 Ju88A
 
Hello Larry

I have a number f I./KG77 Ju 88 images with bird of prey names such as 'Habicht'-Hawk and Kauz 'Screech Owl' sadly all post 1941
Cheers

Chris

Andy Saunders 31st January 2012 17:00

Re: Meaning of German word "Buffard" seen on the nose of a 1./KG77 Ju88A
 
B = Bussard

There was also E = Eule on the same unit.

I think I have seen other names on aircraft of this unit, all linking to the individual aircraft letter. I just need to think where I have seen them, but a photo of a Ju 88 on an RAF lorry in 1940 rings a bell.

Larry Hickey 31st January 2012 17:18

Re: Meaning of German word "Buffard" seen on the nose of a 1./KG77 Ju88A
 
Andy,

The photo of a plane on an RAF lorry doesn't sound familiar to me. If you can think what that is about, it could be most useful. The Ju88A "Eule" is already scheduled as a profile.

Regards,

Larry

Andy Saunders 31st January 2012 21:10

Re: Meaning of German word "Buffard" seen on the nose of a 1./KG77 Ju88A
 
I don't know if he is a member of this forum (not checked!) but I had a photo copy of this image from Steve Coates, although I cannot currently trace the copy. Not sure where I would have 'filed' it.


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