Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/index.php)
-   Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=28446)

Tony Kearns 2nd February 2012 18:42

Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded
 
In September 1943 a Hospital ship left Glasgow and sailed to Gotenburg to exchange wounded personnel. I realise it is a long shot but can anyone tell me the name of the ship please.
Tony K

Stig Jarlevik 2nd February 2012 20:34

Re: Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded
 
Hi Tony

Sorry to say I know nothing about the 1943 exchange, but exactly one year later the vessel M/S Gripsholm entered Gothenburg harbour on 7 September 1944 with 550 men from the former Rommel's Army but also included some former Luftwaffe personal. 162 of them were in such bad shape both physically and mentally that they were transferred to hospital for further treatment (many of these were in fact thought fit for assylum). I also believe the vessel returned with British former POW the other way round later in the month.

This exchange was organized by Folke Bernadotte working for the Red Cross at the time. He was also responsible for the 1943 exchange. I don't think Sweden possessed that many large vessels at the time, so the chances are quite good it actually was Gripsholm in 1943 as well...

Cheers
Stig

Tony Kearns 2nd February 2012 22:34

Re: Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded
 
Thank you Stig, that is something to work on.
Regards
Tony K

Brian Bines 2nd February 2012 23:57

Re: Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded
 
Tony is it this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pPpBkSHSE on checking this ship was probaly only used on the Gotenburg to Germany trip.- Scoll down on this site to Repatriation of Wounded POWs and it mentions some ships used http://www.prisonerofwar.org.uk/winter_2005.htm. This site would indicate the Gripsholm was not used in the Sept. 1943 POW exchange http://www.salship.se/mercy.asp.

Martin Gleeson 3rd February 2012 02:03

Re: Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded
 
Hi Tony,

That ship, a converted liner, was possibly the Empress of Russia. It had arrived in Glasgow c.30 September 1943 from New York. It may have been there for up to two weeks before departing for Sweden.

This information from the excellent 'Footprints on the Sands of Time' by Oliver Clutton-Brock.

Regards,

Martin.

Brian Bines 3rd February 2012 11:23

Re: Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded
 
Tony searching under Hospital Ship Atlantis there is a Daily Echo article which says that in Sept.43 cinema audiences were able to watch a newsreel of the first exchange of wounded British and German POWs carried out by the hospital ship Atlantis and its Royal Mail crew,

Regards

Brian Bines

Tony Kearns 3rd February 2012 12:54

Re: Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded
 
Thank you Brian and Martin as ever helpful.
Brian your posting #4 was most useful I had a good look at the suggestions, reading the Daily Echo article would seem to confirm that it was Atlantis which did the first transfer.
Martin I think the Empress of Russia was a later operation.
All most helpful.
Tony K

Rabe Anton 5th February 2012 23:55

Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded
 
Hallo Tony, et al.!

I wonder if you have thought of contacting the International Red Cross, Geneva, Switzerland, to ask if it can assist you? Any POW repatriations, exchanges, and related matters must have been conducted under the auspices of the IRC; it seems conceivable that the organization maintains some kind of archive or file of releaseable information on the questions that you have. I would be very interested in any reply that you may get.

RA

Tony Kearns 6th February 2012 17:48

Re: Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded
 
Thanks Rabe for your suggestion if anything comes of it I will post it.
regards
Tony K

Joe Potter 7th February 2012 10:45

Re: Repatriated Luftwaffe wounded
 
A former member of KG2 told me about his aborted repatriation via Newhaven, all had to be disembarked at the last minute, he was never given a reason, I have no date or ships name.
Joe.


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 13:12.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net