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Thierry K

15th February 2012 10:51

Wk.Nr. 4807 lost

I'm looking for information about Me109 E, WkNr 4807 lost on 2 September 1940.
Regards, Thierry

Matti Salonen

15th February 2012 11:58

Re: Wk.Nr. 4807 lost

1940-09-02, 1./JG 51, Bf 109E-1, 4807, Womenswold, Absturz nach Luftkampf mit Spitfire. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Ruttkowski, Günther. + (Cannock Chase/UK, Block 1, Reihe 2, Grab 36)

Matti

Thierry K

15th February 2012 12:53

Re: Wk.Nr. 4807 lost

Thank you very much for lightning reply.
It seems that Lt Ruttkowski was Heinz Bär's wingman, shot down few time before Bär was himself hit and ditched in the Channel. (flying WkNr 3714 ?) Regards, Thierry

Peter Cornwell

15th February 2012 13:05

Re: Wk.Nr. 4807 lost

1./JG51 Messerschmitt Bf109E-1 (4807). Shot down in combat with No.54 Squadron Spitfires and crashed at Nethersole Farm, Womenswold, east of Barham, 8.00 a.m. Believed that claimed by P/O G. D. Gribble. FF Lt Günter Ruttkowski killed. Aircraft 100% write-off.

Thierry K

16th February 2012 17:59

Re: Wk.Nr. 4807 lost

Peter,
Thank you very much.
Is Lt Helmut ThörThörl's Me109 too in your database ?
I found only Lt Helmut Thörl (1917), 02.09.40, Gefangenschaft, in Personalverluste des JG51.
Regards, Thierry

Matti Salonen

16th February 2012 18:06

Re: Wk.Nr. 4807 lost

1940-09-02, 1./JG 51, Bf 109E-1, 4850, Leeds Castle, Absturz brennend nach Luftkampf mit Jäger. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Thörl, Helmut, gefangen (mit Fallschirm abgesprungen)

Matti

Thierry K

16th February 2012 18:58

Re: Wk.Nr. 4807 lost

Thank you very much again.
Regards, Thierry

Peter Cornwell

17th February 2012 09:34

Re: Wk.Nr. 4807 lost

1./JG51 Messerschmitt Bf109E-1 (4850). Shot down by S/L J.A. Leathart of No.54 Squadron in combat over Maidstone and crashed in flames at South Poston, near Leeds Castle, 8.00 a.m. FF Lt Helmut Thörl baled out and captured badly burned. Aircraft 100% write-off.
Major recovery by London Air Museum. Complete Daimler-Benz DB601 engine salvaged with propeller boss, undercarriage legs, cockpit controls, instruments, and 7.92mm MG17 machine guns. Engine badge now held by Steve Vizard.

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