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byron- 29th February 2012 22:27

Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Mohra
 
Hello all,

has anyone ever heard of that unit?

Byron

Larry deZeng 1st March 2012 01:24

Re: Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Mohra
 
Be sure and read the fine print, too:

http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/ergfagr.html
http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/ergobdh.html
http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/ergnagr.html

byron- 1st March 2012 07:05

Re: Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Mohra
 
Thank you Larry,

I didn`t know that this unit ever visited Greece.
"I know one thing now, that I know nothing"

with the best regards
Byron

Matti Salonen 1st March 2012 07:48

Re: Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Mohra
 
They even lost several aircraft:
1943-03-20, 1./Erg.FAGr., Ju 88A-5, (88)0742, Südlich Pilea (Saloniki), Hindernisberührung. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Trautwein, Wolfgang, +
Beobachter Lt Wendt, Kurt, +
Bordfunker Uffz Creyaufmüller, Karl, +
Bordmechaniker Uffz Felger, Karl, +
1943-05-03, 1./Erg.FAGr., Ju 88D-1, (88)1712, Fl.Pl. Saloniki-Sedes, Absturz infolge Bedienungsfehler und Aufschlagbrand. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Galander, Werner, +
Beobachter Olt Rogati, Alfred, +
Bordfunker Gefr Spilker, Hans, +
Bordschütze Uffz Herget, Karl, +
1943-05-03, 3./Erg.FAGr., Ju 88A-5, (88)0383, Fl.Pl. Saloniki-Sedes, Absturz. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Jeutter, Friedrich, +
Bordschütze Uffz Stahl, Heinz, +
1943-05-05, 2./Erg.FAGr., Ju 88A-5, (88)0763, F2+LK, Ägäisches Meer, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Mödlhammer, Johann, vermißt
Beobachter Lt Harff, Günther, vermißt
Bordfunker Ogfr Lechner, Alois, vermißt
Bordschütze Ogfr Heinze, Kurt, vermißt

Matti

RT 1st March 2012 09:04

Re: Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Mohra
 
"I know one thing now, that I know nothing"

But to add , Byron, that piece per piece , we know a bit more than nil,
quite an interesting piece that one

Rémi

hanshauprich 1st March 2012 11:18

Re: Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Mohra
 
The correct spelling is "Weimar-Nohra" not Mohra! (Nohra is an suburban at the City of Weimar)

At 10. May 1940 the Erg./AGr. Weimar-Nohra used about 80 Fieseler Fi 156 for the Commandos Hedderich and Niwi.

Commando Hedderich flow with about 40 Fi 156 from Trier-Euren with men from "Großdeutschland" (Elite-Divison) to land in the early morning at positions in the Grand Dutchy of Luxembourg near the french border to support the german forces invaded France.

byron- 1st March 2012 15:08

Re: Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Mohra
 
Hello Matti,

The losses you mentioned (i am ware of them) belonged to the Ergänzungs-Fernaufklärungsgruppe
with the following Kommanders:

Kdr. Erg. Aufkl.Gr.
? – 18.11.42 Major d.R. Hans-Günther von Obernitz,
16.12.43 – 15.01.44 Obstlt. Hans-Günther von Obernitz,
16.01.44 – 27.12.44 Obstlt. Gerhard Kopper


Larrys link shows an Ergänzungs-Nahaufklärungsgruppe with differend Kommanders:
  • Obstlt Wolfgang Wehl, 10.4.42 - 26.4.42
  • Maj Hans Haack, 27.4.42 - 17.6.42
  • Oberst Günther Menzel, 18.6.42 - 21.4.43
  • Hptm Otto-Heinrich Lang, 22.4.43 - 7.6.44
I think Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Nohra was a different unit then Ergänzungs-Fernaufklärungsgruppe.


Remi, you are right, step by step we are geting a little wiser



Byron










Matti Salonen 1st March 2012 15:41

Re: Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Mohra
 
Erg.FAGr. had on 1 March 1943:
35 Ju 88, 2 Do 17, 2 Do 215 and 1 Fi 156
Erg.NAGr. had on 1 March 1943:
23 Hs 126, 19 FW 189, 10 Bf 110, 6 Fi 156 and 4 Do 17
Also, Erg.FAGr. was located at Fl.Pl. Weimar-Nohra and Erg.NAGr. at Fl.Pl. Bromberg.
Therefore, based on the attached extract in your first message, only Erg.FAGr. is possible. This unit has been called sometimes also Erg.AGr.Posen (Fl.Pl. Posen was its location after Weimar-Nohra).

Matti

byron- 1st March 2012 19:13

Re: Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Mohra
 
Dear Matti,

Thank you, the issue is now very clear to me.

Byron


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