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Tolesa 8th May 2012 11:14

Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177
 
Hello all, have you got infos about history and accidents of this two W.Nr. HE 111, please? Many thanks. Tolesa

ianatheling 9th May 2012 01:46

Re: Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177
 
Hi Tolesa

Do you mean Heinkel He 111B? If you do, I am fairly sure that these WNr's would be late He111B-2 series, but nothing else to offer at present

Ian

Tolesa 9th May 2012 20:59

Re: Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177
 
Hello Ian, of course, He 111, I corrected it now...

ianatheling 10th May 2012 02:33

Re: Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177
 
A few He111B-2's with WNr's in this range finished their lives with FFS C6 and C9.

Ian

RT 10th May 2012 14:33

Re: Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177
 
2196 was accepted i.April 40 at Erfurt, probably after some accident or "Umbau", Why about these ones ??

Rémi

Tolesa 11th May 2012 16:29

Re: Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177
 
Finished their lives? Erfurt in France or in Germany? Many thanks. I have my own theory about something with several crashed planes so I need more infos cause I want know denouement of all...

RT 11th May 2012 18:24

Re: Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177
 
Erfurt pretty far from France, even if we hv stollen some german-speaking lands in the past , no Erfurt drin, no-end live, but contrary the 2196 hv been new accepted , like after an accident or some important change in the plane structure

Rémi

Tolesa 13th May 2012 09:26

Re: Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177
 
2196 after accident was rebuilt on some other type? Could it be P 2 or some other? Thanks, Rémi. M.

RT 13th May 2012 10:03

Re: Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177
 
We are there conjecturing, the only fact is that the plane was accpted in April 40, as that date pretty far from man. date, we could suppose that acceptation resulted from a major event, overhaul, repair, or modification, change of engines ?? Never seen picture of an old frame with DB engines..

Rémi

ianatheling 13th May 2012 15:52

Re: Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177
 
There were almost certainly two different He111’s with the WNr. 2196. The first would have been a He111B-2. But this work number block was also used for He111P-2. These are not re-builds, but new aircraft. The 2196 at Erfurt in April 1940 could be either aircraft. If it was the He111P-2 we would suspect that it was still an operational aircraft. If the He111B-2 still existed at this time then it would have been retired to a training unit some time before.


Ian


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