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nikkel 18th July 2012 19:27

Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943
 
Hi guys,

Can anyone please provide details over the loss of Oberleutnant Hans Grotz who was missing on 7.10.1943?

Born 18.11.1914
Deutsches kreuz in Gold ???


Thanks
Mike

Andreas Brekken 19th July 2012 00:26

Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943
 
Hi.

The transcribed loss record:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=105509

Regards,
Andreas B

nikkel 19th July 2012 19:23

Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943
 
Thanks Andreas

Matti Salonen 21st July 2012 10:10

Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943
 
Um 20.30 Uhr in Pl.Qu. 05 Ost 2342.

Matti

Marcel van Heijkop 21st July 2012 14:42

Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943
 
Andreas, Matti,

I have heard that Hans Grotz was severely wounded earlier in the war (lost a leg IIRC) and hence converted from being a Flugzeugführer to Beobachter. Could any of you confirm this? Is there an earlier entry about Hans Grotz in your losses database?

In any case, the loss of Hans Grotz was a severe blow to I./KG66, which was still more or less in a start up phase. He was very experienced and an example for younger crews, both in professional skill and character..

Thanks in advance,

Marcel
(I./KG66 Research)

Matti Salonen 21st July 2012 19:02

Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943
 
1940-04-22, 7./KG 4, He 111P, Fl.Pl. Aalborg, Hindernisberührung beim Start. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Zetzsche, Hans-Joachim, verletzt
Beobachter Lt Grotz, Hans, verletzt
Bordfunker Ogfr Nowotny, Gerhard, verletzt
Bordmechaniker Uffz Franz, Siegfried, verletzt

Matti

Marcel van Heijkop 21st July 2012 19:06

Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen (Post 151811)
1940-04-22, 7./KG 4, He 111P, Fl.Pl. Aalborg, Hindernisberührung beim Start. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Zetzsche, Hans-Joachim, verletzt
Beobachter Lt Grotz, Hans, verletzt
Bordfunker Ogfr Nowotny, Gerhard, verletzt
Bordmechaniker Uffz Franz, Siegfried, verletzt

Matti

Matti,

Wow, thanks! That could be it!

Regards,

Marcel


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