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KrisJG3 3rd October 2012 00:13

IIWW films with LW aircrafts.
 
'...Wrecked aircraft in Germany during World War II. German aircraft parked at the edge of a wood. Messerschmitt Bf 109 and Heinkel He 111 aircraft parked. Wreckage of an aircraft. A camouflaged Heinkel He 111 aircraft. ...''

Source:

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65...Heinkel-He-111


''...A film titled 'Major John C. Meyer 487 Sqdn.(Squadron) 352 F.G.(Fighter Group) attacking ME-109 on 4 December 1943'. ME-109 seen in flight and later explodes due to attack during World War II in Germany. A parachute descends. ...''

Source:

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65...eptor-aircraft

For more films please write in window ''search"' words like: Bf109 or other ..... FW190 ....etc.
Than You will see more films !!!

Example:

http://www.criticalpast.com/stock-footage-video/fw190

http://www.criticalpast.com/stock-footage-video/bf109

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65..._Nazi-Swastika


I think it is good base for id some LW aircrafts :)

Kris

PhilippeDM 3rd October 2012 13:26

Re: IIWW films with LW aircrafts.
 
First film: shows Fw 190 D plane - at min. 1.35 a RV Yellow/red band. It is a pity this film is not shown in lager resolution, But what a find!
and perhaps a Ta 152 --> JG300??? = Pure conjecture as that RV is to be confirmed of course.
As I am not used to upload stills of it, perhaps someone could complete it.

Marc-André Haldimann 3rd October 2012 16:02

Re: IIWW films with LW aircrafts.
 
Salut Philippe!

IMHO, Yellow/Red tailband is a give away for JG 301... which operated Ta 152 H's...

Cheers
Marc

Micke D 3rd October 2012 16:45

Re: IIWW films with LW aircrafts.
 
IIRC these three Doras are shown in one of Jerry Crandall’s Fw 190D-9 books and are from JG 2 and not JG 301.
The middle Dora is burned and I guess that the front yellow band is destroyed from the fire.

PhilippeDM 4th October 2012 01:29

Re: IIWW films with LW aircrafts.
 
Marc,

Of course you are completely right! I suppose I was too exited when I wrote my first mail! JG 301 has red/yellow fuselage bands.

Micke,

I'll look it after, but if we agree a Ta 152 is shown on the film, I tend to follow Marc and more accept JG 301 instead of JG 2: I cannot remember JG 2 had Ta 152, exept our ever returning mystery bird WNr 500645, which is said to be a Ta tailed Fw 190 D ... Anyway, still nice find....

Micke D 4th October 2012 08:20

Re: IIWW films with LW aircrafts.
 
I still insist that this is a burned out Fw 190D-9 with parts of the RV bands looking like yellow/red instead of yellow/white/yellow. I would say that everything else is just wishful thinking. ;o)
But on the other hand, I would also like to see a Ta 152H from JG 2.
I have read somewhere that the few remaining Ta 152s of JG 301 was going to be transferred to JG 11 but I don’t know if that is true or if it ever happened before the war ended.

Tony Kambic 4th October 2012 20:19

Re: IIWW films with LW aircrafts.
 
From what I can tell, it is a Dora and not the Ta. The Ta changed to a hydraulic landing gear and had a straight piston retraction cylinder, not the folding drag link connected to an electric motor in all other Fw-190 models. This image appears to be a drag link. The hydraulic on the Ta landing gear was connected up higher on the strut also.


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