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Brian 6th October 2012 16:57

Ju88 & He111 shot down by Jersey AA 1944
 
Hi guys

Can anyone provide details of two aircraft shot down in error by Jersey AA in 1944.

The Ju88 crashed either 6 April 1944 or 6 June 1944

The He111 on 21 June 1944; both crews were killed.

Any help appreciated
Cheers
Brian

Brian Bines 6th October 2012 18:08

Re: Ju88 & He111 shot down by Jersey AA 1944
 
Hi Brian,

Ju88 A-4 KG101 Ff Fw August Spoo +, B Uffz Heinz Heimbach +, Bf Fw Wilhelm Bonsel +, Bs Uffz Ferdinand Dur (umlaut over u) fatally inj. died 7-4-44. Hit by German Flak as it approached Jersey crashed near Eden Chapel, St. Saviors 6/7-4-44. On mission to IOW to bomb military installations..

He 111H-20 S3+NK 2/TG30 700240 Ff Fw Karl Gruner,B Ofw Wolfgang Kettenbuil, Bf Uffz Paul Stiemke, Bw Uffz Franz Zeidler all killed Bd Uffz Albert Klein mortally injured died in hospital next day. Aircraft on supply flight to Fortress Cherbourg., approached Jersey at low level with starboard engine on fire. Light Flak from Fort Regent St. Helier engaged and the Heinkel crashed at Samares, St. Clement approx. 2330 hrs. on 20-6-44.

Small parts of both aircraft were on display in the Underground Museum Jersey,

Regards

BrianBines


The Sinel Occupation Diary says just before the Heinkel crashed a large number of parachute containers were dropped, these were approx. 4 foot long by 18 inches in diameter. They contained ammunition and small-calibre shells and were assumed to be dropped in mistake for Cherbourg

Matti Salonen 6th October 2012 18:11

Re: Ju88 & He111 shot down by Jersey AA 1944
 
1944-04-06, Eins.-St./KG 101, Ju 88A-4, 142476, Bei Insel Jersey, Eigener Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Spoo, August, +
Beobachter Uffz Heimbach, Heinz, +
Bordfunker Fw Bönsel, Wilhelm, +
Bordschütze Uffz Dür, Ferdinand, +

1944-06-21, 2./TGr. 30, He 111H-20, 700240, S3+NK, Insel Jersey, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Gruhler, Karl, +
Beobachter Ofw Kettenbeil, Wolfgang, +
Bordfunker Uffz Stiemke, Paul, +
Bordwart Uffz Zeidler, Franz, +
Bordschütze Uffz Klein, Albert, +

Matti

Brian Bines 6th October 2012 18:18

Re: Ju88 & He111 shot down by Jersey AA 1944
 
Hi Matti,

Do you have the werk nummer for the aircraft of Fw. Johannes Gunsch of KG101 missing 6/7 -4-44 please,

Regards

Brian Bines

Matti Salonen 6th October 2012 19:26

Re: Ju88 & He111 shot down by Jersey AA 1944
 
144108

Matti

Brian Bines 6th October 2012 19:41

Re: Ju88 & He111 shot down by Jersey AA 1944
 
Matti, Thanks very much,

Regards

Brian Bines

Brian 6th October 2012 22:07

Re: Ju88 & He111 shot down by Jersey AA 1944
 
Thanks Brian and Matti

Great stuff!

Cheers
Brian

Jim P. 7th October 2012 23:18

Re: Ju88 & He111 shot down by Jersey AA 1944
 
I have the following for

Ju 88A-14, 144108, Günsch, Fw. Hans, , , , KG 101, , 5T+HX, , , 06-Apr-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., WNr. 4108 per loss., Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/778, Flzg.Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.129, , Ort unbekannt, 100%, E, B Uffz. Ulrich Rudolf, Bf Uffz. Joachim Schmidt & Bs Uffz. Fritz Kups, ,

RT 26th September 2013 13:08

Re: Ju88 & He111 shot down by Jersey AA 1944
 
Light Flak from Fort Regent St. Helier engaged and the Heinkel crashed at Samares, St. Clement approx. 2330 hrs. on 20-6-44.

Also is given the FLAK of a "Minenraumboot" seems that crew of the He111, could not fire the Verey color

Rémi


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