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Larry Hickey 9th October 2012 18:49

Question about 1940 Bf109E Stkz CA+EC
 
Hello,

I'm trying to determine if the Stkz CA+EC translates into a W.Nr., and if so, what it would be. This should be on a Bf109E-4.

If there is no record of this particular number, can anyone tell me the WNr block for "CA"- marked Bf109s that would have been manufactured in 1940?

Thanks for any assistance.

Regards,

Larry Hickey
EoE Project Coordinator.

RolandF 10th October 2012 10:18

Re: Question about 1940 Bf109E Stkz CA+EC
 
I have a hypothetic block WNr 6480 CA+CA to WNr 6500 CA+CU, but only one certain StKz WNr 6483 CA+CD, but a E-7.
Misinterpretations might have happened within block 5104 CA+OA to 5129 CA+OZ as E-3 CA+OE with many re-builts as E-4 and E-7 as well as within block 1461 CA+QA to 1479 CA+QS as E-3 CA+QE, but almost completely listed as E-4 and rebuilt to E-7 standards

Servus

Roland

Rabe Anton 10th October 2012 14:22

Re: Question about 1940 Bf109E Stkz CA+EC
 
Larry:

It would be very helpful if you would post the photograph or documentary source for the Bf 109 SKZ in which you you are interested. Indeed, it may be essential for reader/researchers to see the evidence that you have in hand, not out of skepticism but in order to evaluate several aircraft identification factors that can only be seen in the original source(s).

RA

Merlin 10th October 2012 17:32

Re: Question about 1940 Bf109E Stkz CA+EC
 
Larry,

for CA+EA to Y I have Ju88A-1 starting with WNr. 6007, the last plane in this block CA+EZ was a Praga E.39 (confirmed by several Flugbuch entries).

It would nice to see the photo.

Larry Hickey 11th October 2012 00:06

Re: Question about 1940 Bf109E Stkz CA+EC
 
Jim & Merlin,

The plane in question was with Stab JG51 and was a Bf109E-4 or E-7 circa 9.40.

Regards,

Larry Hickey
EoE Project Coordinator

gogh 11th October 2012 00:37

Re: Question about 1940 Bf109E Stkz CA+EC
 
Hello Roland
I have
CA+CB as Ju52
CA+CF as He46
CA+CI as He46
CA+CO as Fi156
CA+CS as Ar66
CA+CU as Kl35

all confirmed by pictures

Regards

Peter van Gogh

RolandF 11th October 2012 12:39

Re: Question about 1940 Bf109E Stkz CA+EC
 
Thanks Peter, this pushes the hypothetic Bf 109 CA+C? block into the nirvana und puts a big question mark behind CA+CD.

Regards

Roland

Andreas Brekken 11th October 2012 22:40

Re: Question about 1940 Bf109E Stkz CA+EC
 
Hi, all

This seems to put the CA + C? series Stkz into a series given to the different aircraft of an existing unit. It is thus not entirely impossible that CA + CE could be a Bf 109E, it is just not a Stkz issued at production, but rather to an aircraft at a given place and unit when the Stkz was issued.

Regards,
Andreas B

ouidjat 12th October 2012 08:37

Re: Question about 1940 Bf109E Stkz CA+EC
 
Hi,

Didn't Larry ask for CA+EC, NOT CA+CE?
... But
One CA+CD in JG 110, Februar 1944. E-7, 6483 given in Bert's site.
CA+E. batch documented in same site as told by Merlin.

Hence Anton is right asking for picture evidence...

Regards, Franck.


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