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Skyraider3D 8th November 2012 23:37

Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and C-6 in 3D
 
Hello all, it's been awhile since I tackled a Luftwaffe subject. Here's a current 3D model of mine, the Ju 88. So far I've made an A-4 bomber and C-6 nightfighter variant.

There's one mistake I still need to fix, which is the starboard engine (accidentally mirrored), but that's an easy fix. The C-6 still needs fuselage markings (Hauptmann Tober's machine of NJG 3). So please consider these work-in-progress:

http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...st_web1024.jpg

http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...st_web1024.jpg

Likewise a work-in-progress profile render of the A-4 (the contrast in the shadows is too great and the cockpit needs more equipment):

http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...file_wip01.jpg



Now what I'm currently looking for is a confirmed encounter of a Ju 88 A (with known unit & markings) and Polikarpov I-16 (known unit, markings, pilot if possible, preferably a type 10 or type 17), which would make for an interesting artwork... I am sure there are many such encouters, but finding an actual matchup is proving extremely hard. Can anyone please suggest me a good place (book, website, etc.) to start?

Also please have a look at the link to a post about Tober's aircraft. I'm trying to establish who shot him down.



NB. These models are a conversion (read: nearly full rebuilt) of an older 3D model of mine of the Ju 88 T-1, which was made way back in 2004 for a book which never materialised. As you can see from this comparison animation, the rework was substantial.

Skyraider3D 12th November 2012 21:03

Re: Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and C-6 in 3D
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyraider3D (Post 157571)
Now what I'm currently looking for is a confirmed encounter of a Ju 88 A (with known unit & markings) and Polikarpov I-16 (known unit, markings, pilot if possible, preferably a type 10 or type 17), which would make for an interesting artwork... I am sure there are many such encouters, but finding an actual matchup is proving extremely hard. Can anyone please suggest me a good place (book, website, etc.) to start?

Also please have a look at the link to a post about Tober's aircraft. I'm trying to establish who shot him down.

Anyone please?

Skyraider3D 12th November 2013 17:39

Re: Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and C-6 in 3D
 
A wee update to the 3D model of the night fighter. And still hoping somebody may hold the answer to "who shot down Oblt. Tober?"

http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...ber_web900.jpg

http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...sk_web1350.jpg

Clint Mitchell 12th November 2013 19:17

Re: Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and C-6 in 3D
 
Very nice Ronnie. ;)

jim norton 15th November 2013 11:52

Re: Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and C-6 in 3D
 
hi,

how long did it take to make this great views?

all the best
jim

Skyraider3D 15th November 2013 12:22

Re: Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and C-6 in 3D
 
Thanks very much for your replies, Clint & Jim! Glad you like it!


Jim, I didn't log my hours too well on this project as it spans over two periods, so it's difficult to say exactly. I originally made a Ju 88 T-1 for a book by Dave Wadman, which never materialised (as planned). I created this model in my spare time over the course of 3 months back in 2004. Then last year I was asked to produce an A-4 model for a documentary. What started off as a "quick conversion" became a major rebuild and took about three weeks. Here you can see the differences between the 2004 model and the current model. In hindsight I wish I'd started from scratch as not a single polygons remains in place! :)

http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...fore-after.gif

In another week I converted the A-4 variant to a C-6 model for a different episode of the same documentary series. On the to-do list are the A-1, A-17, R-1, H-1 and possibly G-models and a Mistel at some point

The renders themselves were set up fairly quickly (both in the same evening) using lighting rigs I set up in the past for other projects. But these are just tests really. I'm preparing for some all-new, full combat renders together with my 3D Mosquito model in both day and night time scenarios:

http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...MkVI_wip15.jpg

bill norman 15th November 2013 13:26

Re: Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and C-6 in 3D
 
Superb models - and indistiguishable from the real thing, as far as I'm concerned.

Bill Norman (www.billnorman.co.uk)

edNorth 15th November 2013 13:29

Re: Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and C-6 in 3D
 
Not exactly accurate. This C-6 "modelled" should have Gondola and code be R4+LS.
-Ed

Skyraider3D 15th November 2013 13:39

Re: Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and C-6 in 3D
 
Thank you Bill!


Quote:

Originally Posted by edNorth (Post 175386)
Not exactly accurate. This C-6 "modelled" should have Gondola and code be R4+LS.

Only if you believe the often repeated myths.

The registration is 4R+AS. If you have the In Action book on the Ju 88 please look on page 24. It has a photo of this aircraft and it clearly has the registration 4R+AS written on the flame damper. "AS" is visible as well on the fuselage. Furthermore the second photo below clearly shows "A" on the lower nose. I hope this convinces you the correct registration is 4R+AS, not R4+LS as often stated! :)

As for the gondola, please judge for youself, but I don't think it has one.
I believe many late Ju 88 C-6s with Schräge Musik had the gondola removed as it simply wasn't required anymore.

http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...Jan1944_01.jpg

http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...Jan1944_02.jpg

Photo from Ju 88 In Action page 24 with the serial barely visible on the flame damper:

http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...Jan1944_03.jpg

edNorth 15th November 2013 13:54

Re: Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and C-6 in 3D
 
http://www.digitalaviationart.com/fo...ber_web900.jpg
I read code different there, it says 4R+AS, Right?
Other photo is not conclusive, in my view, Gondola´s often were crushed and ripped off on crash landings.
-ed


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