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Mirek Wawrzynski 22nd December 2012 17:54

lat vicotry of Schellmann on 22.06.41?
 
I'm interested in the last victory of Maj Wolfgang Schellmann Stab / JG 27 of 06/22/41.

I met with a statement that he shot down I-16. In another list of wins given that it was a biplane (doppler). Maybe someone has a list of victories pilots of JG 27 of 22.06.1941?

The second thing is the hour of his victory, most of the time I met the 3.15 am. Is it possible that it had been a victory somewhat later than is often found in the lists? For example, between the hours of 7.05-7.28?

The third issue, which was the main goal for pilots with Stab / G 27, who flew in the morning of the first task Schellmann battle?

The attack on the Grodno (cover Ju 87)? Or another purpose?

Regards,
mirekw

John Beaman 22nd December 2012 22:07

Re: lat vicotry of Schellmann on 22.06.41?
 
Mirek, This was not listed in Dr. Prien's works on JG 27 and the JV series?

Mirek Wawrzynski 23rd December 2012 12:02

Re: Last victory of Schellmann on 22.06.41?
 
Pity, the exacte time is very important, I would like to match his opponent, without this it is still poblem. If it was doppledecker it is..., if it was Rata it is ...
Second. In most data (2 lists) time is given very early this 3.15 am, but what if it could happen later (7.05-7.28)?

mirekw

Jim P. 24th December 2012 18:56

Re: lat vicotry of Schellmann on 22.06.41?
 
22-Jun-41, Major, Wolfgang, Schellmann, St., Stab, JG 27, I-16 Rata, Grodno, 03.15, 14., 21, yes, C.2036/II, Nr. 81 857, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Ltn., Hans, Witzel, II., 5., JG 27, I-15, nordöstlich Olytus, 03.54, 4., 103, yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 20, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Hptm., Wolfgang, Lippert, II., Stab II., JG 27, I-15, südlich Knysyyn, 04.15, 17., 104, yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 14, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Hptm., Wolfgang, Lippert, II., Stab II., JG 27, I-17, nordöstlich Wizna, 04.18, 18., 105, yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 13, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Oblt., Wilhelm, Wiesinger, II., 4., JG 27, I-17, nördlich Zambrow, 04.20, 10., 106, yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 34, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Ofw., Otto, Schulz, II., 4., JG 27, I-15, nördlich Olytus, 08.20, 7., 107, yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 35, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Fw., Herbert, Krenz, II., 6., JG 27, I-15, nordöstlich Olytus, 08.25, 5., 108, yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 18, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Uffz., Johann, Walchhofer, II., 6., JG 27, SB-2, südlich Wilna, 15.00, 1., 109, yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 17, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Ltn., Hans, Witzel, II., 5., JG 27, Doppeldecker, Dogai, 15.25, 5., 110, yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 21, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Ltn., Arthur, Schacht, II., 4., JG 27, DB-3, südlich Berzniki, 16.23, 2., 111, yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 40, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Ltn., Hans, Witzel, II., 5., JG 27, I-15, westlich Bialystok, 18.15, 6., 112, yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 19, Prien/Bock,
22-Jun-41, Oblt., Erbo Graf von, Kageneck, III., 9., JG 27, SB-2, südlich Wilna, 18.50, 18., 145, yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
22-Jun-41, Uffz., Ernst, Riepe, III., 9., JG 27, SB-2, südlich Wilna, 18.50, 1., 146, yes, Prien/Bock, , ,

Mirek Wawrzynski 25th December 2012 10:27

Re: lat vicotry of Schellmann on 22.06.41?
 
Thanks, this is one option, and the problem has just began. I-16 did not fit the Schellmann's claim, better is I-153, which one near Grodno was in fact lost in the combat very early in the morning, :-)

Regards,
mw


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