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Me 110 M8+BM AUG. 30th 1940. Heinz Wagner was shot down by Willie McKnight in his Hurricane LD-A of 242 Sqn. RAF. I would like to hear from anyone who has any info or photos of the crash site or the Pilot....Heinz Wagner. I do have an Antique item that belongs to Heinz Wagner, and would like to trace any Family members.

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have this info:

Bf 110C-4, 3257, Wagner, Hptm. Heinz, 4./ZG 76, weiße B, M8+BM, 30-Aug-40, Stkp. Crew KIA due to Luftkampf with Hurricane from 242 Sq. (P/O McKnight).
Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Vasco/Cornwell, Zerstörer, p.187; Mason, p.325; BoB, T&N, p.609; Ring, ZG 76 loss list, Enfield Sewage Farm, Wharf Road, Ponders End, Enfield, FBf Stfw. Heinrich Schmidt, 17.55

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Thank you John. One or two new leads THANKS. Hoping for that moment when something GREAT Happens, like a photo of Wagner etc. Jeff

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Hello,

There are at least two photos that I know of from this crash site, which was mainly just a water-filled crater in the sewage farm at the back of a housing area. No real identifiable remnants of the a/c visible to my knowledge.

Regards,

Larry Hickey
EoE Project Coordinator

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Hi Jeff & Larry.

Attached the A.I.(g) Report which contains this particular loss.

Kind regards,

Melvin

Aircrew Remembrance Society.

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Hi Melvin. GREAT MORE INFO with a little more detail. I have pics of THE MG 15 that was on board M8+BM. MANY THANKS . Jeff

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UPDATED INFO. Heinz Wagner, Pilot of Me 110 c 3257 Wharf Road, Ponders End, Enfield, London 30th Aug 1940 Pilot WAS FROM 5/ZG 76. shot down at 16.55

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Available information is that Hptm. Heinz Wagner, was Staffelkapitän of 4./ZG 76 at the time of his death in action. Do you have a primary source to quote for his being in 5th Staffel?

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Battle of Britain then and now states 4/ZG 76 but reading the RAF A.1.1.(K). 31.8.40 Doc. States....5/Z.G.76 and a paper found in the plane refers to this unit and to instructions for the 5th Staffel during an operation of the 11 Gruppe.
John, If you have any info on Heinz Wagner please let me know. I do have an Antique relic belonging to Heinz that i wish to return to his Family. Jeff

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The information regarding Wagner being Staka of 4./ZG 76 is held by Peter Cornwell.

Loads of documents were found by Intelligence Officers in Lw aircraft during the BoB, as security was rather lax in that direction. Also, what was in the 'K' summaries were sometimes guesses and shots in the dark. Also, they simply reproduced what was told them to them. He may have been in 5. Staffel at one time. Peter would need to come in on this one.